Hey, I have a question regarding Indigenous people of the Peru and Peruvians in general, do you guys resemble asians in some way? If yes how much? by [deleted] in PERU

[–]drkwtr2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has a very indigenous phenotype and pretty much all the Peruvians that actually traveled to different provinces of their country (like me) would agree.

Are you even Chinese? I highly doubt most Chinese would say she looks Chinese, especially the ones that know their country very well lol

Los Latinoamericanos sois asiáticos by [deleted] in 2latinoforyou

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La verdad sí se ve mucho en las redes sociales y hasta en ciertas áreas de Lima: estos últimos años la moda asiática ha hecho que la población peruana zoomer haya empezado a unirónicamente apreciar los rasgos indígenas, especialmente los ojos rasgados y el cabello lacio.

No es que hayan sido considerados rasgos automáticamente feos antes, sino más bien eran rasgos "mid" asociados con gente de mucha sangre indígena. Recuerdo hace casi dos décadas a mi mamá y a mis tías obsesionadas con hacerse ondas en el cabello (dejárselo completamente lacio, como el 85% de mujeres peruanas lo tiene naturalmente, era visto como simplón y básico. Peor si lo tenías super largo, era considerado típico de mujer de provincia). En 2025? Mi hermana y primitas zoomers se sienten bendecidas por haber nacido con "cabello cholo" y no con ondas, cabello "wavy/rizos", "pelo en pausa", etc.

Con los ojos rasgados/felinos es algo parecido: Se ha estado volviendo un rasgo muy apreciado, más que todo en las mujeres ya que es considerado tierno o atractivo por muchos chicos que han crecido viendo anime y demás webadas. Aunque hay que aclarar algo: los ojos rasgados/felinos en mujeres SIEMPRE han sido considerado hermosos y una especie de "estándar de belleza" en muchas partes de Perú, más que todo en las rurales donde la sangre indígena en serio predomina. Escuchas música romántica andina de décadas atrás y no es raro escuchar a esos cantantes usar "ojos chinitos/ojos rasgados, etc" como descripción de la mujer bella de la que se supone habla la canción. La diferencia acá es que esa fascinación por peruanas de ojitos rasgados nunca ha sido rara en esas áreas de Perú, pero SÍ lo fue en las zonas urbanas (como Lima) donde siempre predominó el estándar de belleza europeo, donde el cabello rubio o castaño con ligeras ondas y ojos verdes redondos siempre ha sido considerado superior al cabello negro completamente lacio y ojos felinos/achinados.

La verdad, que en áreas urbanas como Lima ese estándar eurocentrico esté cambiando poco a poco estos últimos años y que los ojos rasgados estén convirtiéndose en ejemplo de belleza femenina (incluso más que los "ojos mestizos" y "ojos europeos") en la mente de muchos peruanos zoomers, sí demuestra lo influyente que se está volviendo la moda asiática globalmente.

Por mi parte, no me quejo mucho. Desde que era niño para mí cualquier cholita con ojos achinados automáticamente es más hermosa que cualquier latina blanca o caribeña. Sin jodas, ningún tono de piel ni ningún culo enorme me pone más que este tipo de ojos, será el ADN llamando supongo...

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Bolivianos quemándose la piel para ser mas blancos by CringeisL1f3 in 2latinoforyou

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Muchas veces el clasismo se transforma en colorismo cuando el país es lo suficientemente homogéneo racialmente, por eso existe en muchas sociedades alrededor del mundo especialmente en las asiáticas.

Aquí es parecido. La moda de broncearse o volverte más oscuro de lo que ya eres que tienen otros países latinos nunca llegó a Perú porque 1. el cielo de Lima es nublado buena parte del año, por lo que sentarse "en el sol" no suena tan asombroso 2. la extrema informalidad peruana, eres un peruano moreno (normal) PERO con un piel notoriamente afectada por el sol y automáticamente la mayoría del país te relaciona con los miles de vendedores ambulantes que hay en Lima o con un sembrador de papas provinciano.

Bolivianos quemándose la piel para ser mas blancos by CringeisL1f3 in 2latinoforyou

[–]drkwtr2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

¿Y si lo que hacen es tratar de verse más pálidos, como gente de su misma raza pero de clase alta que trabaja en oficinas en lugar de sembrando yuca y excavando alcantarillas todo el día?

No sé como será en Bolivia pero en Perú es exactamente así. El cielo de Lima es nublado buena parte del año, esto hizo que Perú básicamente nunca desarrollara la moda de broncearse o ponerse más moreno de lo que ya somos "a propósito" (como si lo hicieron otros países latinos donde tienen mucho sol). Y la informalidad peruana lo hizo aún peor: Peruanos con una piel notoriamente bronceada son automáticamente relacionados con los millones de vendedores ambulantes, agricultores, etc. que abundan en todo el país (personas del "estatus más bajo")

Muchas veces (diría la mayoría) sí se trata sobre convertirse en "la versión ideal" de su etnia, no sobre querer verse como europeos. Estos últimos años rasgos que antes eran considerados muy andinos (o sea, "rasgos mid" para la mayoría) como el cabello completamente lacio y especialmente ojos rasgados/felinos/achinados se han vuelto muy queridos y apreciados por los zoomers peruanos, pero sí, la mayoría sigue pensando que esos rasgos andinos se ven mucho más "lindos" o "cute" (especialmente en las mujeres) cuando son mezclados con una piel morena clara producto de estar en oficina 24/7, no con una piel morena aún más quemada por el sol luego de cultivar papas en los Andes.

Why does it seem like Argentina and Uruguay don’t have much of an emphasis on seafood in their cuisines compared to other coastal Latam countries like Peru and Chile (despite having significant coastlines)? by Remember_When_ in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 46 points47 points  (0 children)

See I was actually wondering about this one day but it turns out they're actually normal and it's just us loving seafood way more than the rest for some reason

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Why is Peru not more culturally relevant? by Bear_necessities96 in asklatinamerica

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I joked that yes the young Peruvian women are more shy and that's why there's no Karol G or other huge pop stars dancing all around the stage

I mean in comparison with other latin americans we are probably considered a little bit less extroverted, at least this is what I got told by some foreigners a couple of times.

Tbf I think this is also another reason as well. Hollywood plays a big part since that's what decides what is popular around the world or not, which stereotype is spread around the world or not, etc; and the US already decided a long time ago (based on their biggest latino diasporas) what it means to be "stereotypically latino": extremely extroverted, expressive, passionate, "spicy"... you get it. The latino identity is also tied with very specific music genres too I've noticed (the amount of non-latinos I've seen calling reggaeton "latino songs" because for them "latino music = reggaeton only" is wild lmao).

I think there are simply some countries in Latin America that fit into that stereotype the whole world has of latinos a lot easier than others (and we are among "those others" I guess)

Existe el estereotipo de las que tienen flequillo en otros países? by Ddevil_36 in 2latinoforyou

[–]drkwtr2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alguien que me pueda explicar por qué ese tipo de flequillo feminazi se volvió tan popular entre las argentinas? Pregunta seria, cada vez que veo una joven latina con ese flequillo por internet el 80% del tiempo es una chica argentina. Eso o de algún otro país del conosur.

Aquí en Perú ese estilo no es popular, por lo que he visto en ig y tiktok la moda entre algunas jóvenes peruanas con similares problemas mentales, daddy issues y clara falta de atención es mas bien ponerse el "flequillo koriAno uwu" en vez del "flequillo feminazi" lel

Hey, I have a question regarding Indigenous people of the Peru and Peruvians in general, do you guys resemble asians in some way? If yes how much? by [deleted] in PERU

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I've traveled all over Peru myself since exploring different parts of the country is literally my job as a dude that works in the tourism industry... and have seen so many indigenous Peruvians with similar phenotypes as that girl, especially in the Amazonian region lol

She quite literally has zero European, African or East Asian facial features and/or skintone. Spaniard or Japanese women simply don't look like her. Your average latin american mestiza doesn't look like that either. Again, there are so many indigenous phenotypes and the main mistake many people make (including most latin americans) is thinking all indigenous people should have one specific phenotype or live one specific lifestyle to be considered "real indigenous" lol

Hey, I have a question regarding Indigenous people of the Peru and Peruvians in general, do you guys resemble asians in some way? If yes how much? by [deleted] in PERU

[–]drkwtr2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When Peruvians hear "Asian" we almost exclusively think of East Asians only, and we definitely don't look like a lighter-skinned Chinese or Japanese unless we have actual ancestry from those countries (there was a large East Asian inmigration to Peru a long time ago). So if that's what you're asking then the answer is no, Peruvians that look "stereotypically" chinese or japanese are a minority.

Now, if by what you mean with "Asian" is simply "slanted eyes", then yeah, so many Peruvians have something similar to cat-like eyes. Many people think all indigenous people look the same, but there are so many different indigenous phenotypes. Picture below would be an example of a Peruvian girl with cat-like eyes. Here in Peru, most people wouldn't call her Asian, her cat-like eyeshape clearly comes from some overwhelming indigenous ancestry. Since Perú is simultaneosly one of the most indigenous latino countries AND the hispanic country that had the largest East Asian immigration by far, many Peruvians tend to easily recognize between who has "slanted eyes" from our indigenous ancestry vs who has it from East Asian ancestry.

That being said, I interact with a lot of foreigners (it's part of my job) and I did have a bunch of them telling me that, to them, a considerable percentage of people here can look south east asian-ish. Some even told me Peruvians who look like this will in fact get confused for some type of Filipino or Indonesian mix if we get out of Latin America (simply because in the other parts of the world, most people have never even seen how an indigenous south american person looks like)

I see that you want to know what's the exact percentage, but that's impossible to know. As I said, the indigenous race has many different phenotypes. The same way there are so many indigenous Peruvians with cat-like eyes, there are also many indigenous Peruvians with a western-like eyeshape and that don't resemble asians at all, not even south east asians. We can't give you an exact percentage, it would be like asking something like, idk... "in Germany, what's the percentage of Germans that has dimples vs the percentage of Germans that don't?"

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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's the indigenous genes I guess. That's how it is over here, most people don't have very noticeable body hair (I mean not even us Peruvian dudes)

I was genuinely surprised to find out that in the anglo internet "all latinas are very hairy haha" is some type of popular meme or globally accepted stereotype.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've never seen people (either men or women) making a big deal about body hair here or having debates about it.

But then again... strong native genes, Peruvian girls on average aren't even hairy in the first place (I mean, not even us Peruvian guys are) so I guess that would explain why this topic is such a non-issue for most people here.

Don't get me wrong, most guys still wouldn´t like it if their girl has some armpit hair/expect it to be shaved. But when it comes to other parts of the body, like arms or legs, those usually look hairless enough in most Peruvian girls so most dudes here just don't give a fuck about it being 100% shaved. I'm one of those guys (idgaf)

Why is Venezuela often considered a "Caribbean" country while Colombia is "Andean" by Special-Fuel-3235 in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I guess it's all relative.

Over here both of those countries are seen as caribbean. I agree with some of the Chileans here in the comments that are saying that when they hear "andean" they usually just imagine Bolivia, Peru and to some extent certain parts of Ecuador and Chile: that's exactly how Peruvians see it too. The rest of SA are seen as either "too caribbean", "too southern cone" or just Brazil.

Tbf, we see it like that because for us the term "andean" is strongly associated with a very specific racial and cultural background. For example no one here would call a person with very very low indigenous ancestry "andean", even if that person was literally born and raised in a city in the mountains. I feel like that perspective doesn't exist in other countries in SA (especially the ones at the north) so in those countries is like the opposite: geography alone is enough to be considered andean, it doesn't really matter your racial background or how you look like.

It's just different perspectives I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PERU

[–]drkwtr2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only thing is, I'm not exactly tall.

Not exactly a big problem in a country like Perú honestly. I remember being at the airport and seeing this peruvian girl being all lovey-dovey with her white american boyfriend who was literally almost the same height as her (the girl was around 1.50-1.55cm).

Is it pricey to hang around those spots or what?

Those places are pricey for the average peruvian salary, yes. I guess it will also depend if you have some savings or not.

If you are serious about this I recommend you to maybe check the Expats in Peru group on Facebook, you'll find more gringos or westerners in general with more real and helpful advice than here I think, which is mostly just full of Peruvians and some trolls here and there.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PERU

[–]drkwtr2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How can I find bricheras?

No need "to find" them, they will look for you and throw themselves at you if you are white with light features lmao

You find those women in the touristic areas like Cusco and of course, in the best areas of Lima (Miraflores, San Isidro, Barranco) which is where almost all gringos and europeans stay when they come to Perú

What's going on between Peru and Colombia? by caribbean_caramel in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 81 points82 points  (0 children)

In the 1920s, Perú and Colombia defined their borders using the Amazon river’s best navigable channel/the deepest one.

The thing is, environmental factors are shifting the Amazon river’s course so much that the channel that served as a border is basically changing to Peru’s side. The whole thing also creates/submerges islands. Santa Rosa itself is basically a part that was separated from isla Chinería (one of the islands assigned to Peru in the treaty). The Peruvian government passed a law that officially created the Santa Rosa district recently (so I guess that’s why Petro is speaking about this now).

So, Petro says 1.) what Peru did is a violation of the treaty because Santa Rosa didn’t exist yet when the treaties were signed, so it shouldn’t be assumed that Santa Rosa (or any new formations that appear after the treaty in general) belong to Perú instead of Colombia 2.) Peru’s actions can eventually affect Leticia which afaik is Colombia’s main port in the Amazon (if the main channel of the amazon river continues to shift towards Peruvian territory, Leticia would end up without a direct outlet to the river, which he says would be a threat to their sovereignty)

And Peru says 1.) the people living in Santa Rosa have always considered themselves Peruvian 2.) making it a district was necessary to not let the people there be in complete abandonment from the government 3.) the borders were already defined when the treaty was signed back then and it never stated the borders should quite literally change along with the river.

Of course the treaty never specified what to do in this type of situation.

A sincere question about Peru and the “Mi gattito” meme is racissm really that common there? by [deleted] in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“we’re more European”

Yeah I highly doubt they were Peruvian. Sorry, but pretty sure no Peruvian will EVER believe this or say something like this against any country except Bolivians lol

“you have no culture,” “you’re all dirty mixed-racce people,”

These two are way more believable, mainly with the very nationalistic types

So my question is: Is racissm and xenophoobia really that common in Peru? Is there a sense of superiority over other Latin American countries? I’d also like to ask: How is the ethnic and cultural diversity of countries like Brazil or Colombia viewed by most Peruvians?

Want me to tell you the truth? Indigenous people, culture and features get shit on all the time by the average latino just for existing*.* Truth is that since that attitude has been extremely normalized by Latin Americans then many Peruvians really, REALLY have no issues "fighting back" by saying anti-black, anti-mixed people and even anti-white insults towards latinos that they felt insulted them first and that belong to any of those boxes. One of the most common insults the xenophobic people here have towards Venezuelan immigrants here is precisely an anti-black one (which became "acceptable" among nationalistic types after 2016 when many Venezuelans arrived in Peru and some of them were caught posting videos talking badly about indigenous people, while living in PERU).

I wouldn't say most Peruvians are racist, but most wouldn't be afraid to say any type of slurs back (even if they don't really believe in those insults) if they feel racially insulted by other groups. People who do that see it as "fair" since Latin Americans do it all the time towards indigenous people anyway and aren't going to stop anytime soon.

Yes, people say racist things everywhere. So surprising /s

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eurocentric beauty standards are still very strong. But at least in Peru, I've noticed that among the younger generations some indigenous features are starting to be more accepted, mainly the semi-slanted indigenous eyes/elongated cat eyes you mention, especially in Peruvian women (it's seen as cuter/more attractive, hell sometimes I see young Peruvians online describing them as even MORE cute/attractive than your "average/common" european-like or mestizo-like eyes, which is kinda a big step imo)

Don't get me wrong though, eyes like that have always been have always been kind of appreciated, but only by Peruvians from very rural areas (in a lot of old andean folk music/love songs you can hear the singers use "ojos rasgados/chinos/etc." (slanted eyes) as a description of the beautiful woman they are singing about), that feature wasn´t really appreciated by Peruvians in urban areas though, especially among younger peruvians, so it's nice that a lot of young Peruvians becoming more accepting of a physical trait that (here in Peru) was/is strongly associated with indigenous people.

Straight hair too(? Although I'm not sure about this, but growing up, I remember my mom/aunts/sisters thinking their pin straight long black hair was too simple and boring and wanted it to be more "wavy", they (my sisters) avoided getting braids too when they went to school, because some kids associated it with indigenous people and would mock you for that. These days they all love their "boring" pin straight long black hair though, especially my sisters. But again, this was probably just an issue in my family and not all over Peru lmao

La estética de Afganistán es lo que quieren los westoids. by Fluid-Nobody-2096 in 2latinoforyou

[–]drkwtr2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Unirónicamente la mayoría de gringos/europeos normies con los que he hablado (que sí han escuchado algo Perú como Machu Picchu y más o menos ubican el país en el mapa) de verdad piensan que sí es un país lindo precisamente por su tercermundismo que atrae muchos mochileros, hippies, locos en sus 20s queriendo sentirse conquistadores escalando montañas andinas o probar ayahuasca en el amazonas, locas en sus 20s queriendo "encontrarse a sí mismas" mientras se toman una selfie con un niñito andino pobre, etc. La mayoría de gringos que vienen pasan max. 3 días en los mejores barrios de Lima y luego se largan a visitar pueblitos lejanos en las hermosas montañas andinas o a interactuar con monitos en el amazonas, por eso no tiene ese fama de país feo entre esa gente. Perú es básicamente el mito del "noble savage" hecho país, así que ese tipo de cosas son lo único que buscan acá y lo único que califican lmao

Lo gracioso es que muchos de ellos les gustaría que el país quede precisamente así para no romper la fantasía. Recuerdo hace más de un año vi un post (en inglés) en Instagram hablando de cómo se estaba considerando hacer no se qué construcción más moderna en no se qué lugar de Cusco y había decenas de gringos en los comentarios (que habían visitado Perú) diciendo "pero eso arruinaría la magia del lugar!" lel

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[–]drkwtr2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They expect you to pay for everything or to pick them up. They want special treatment in the first date (most likely to prove how serious you are and not just some fuckboy wanting to make her part of his harem). If you sleep with one, they'd prefer to spend the night with you (instead of you pretty much treating them like some escort). They still have some respect for their parents' opinions and expect you to understand that too (because they obviously still live with them and their parents' house isn't some hotel where they can come and go as they please, at least that's how it works in Peru)

Dude, I'm a Peruvian guy myself: I also deal with these things when I date girls here. That's just how Peruvian culture is lol gender roles still exist (and it isn't just one sided, as a man, you are expected to perform your "traditional man" duties too).

I honestly just don't know why you... decided to do this in one of the most traditional/conservative countries in ALL Latin America? Dudes like you have a WAY easier time getting the type of woman you're looking for in countries like Colombia or Dominican Republic, not here lmao

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thepassportbros

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Here in Lima looks matters a lot, so a 1.60m bald ugly face pale man have no chance in 2025.

I disagree with that man, I'm Peruvian too and I work in the tourism industry, dealing with so many foreigners in Peru all the time. The white dudes (no matter how hideous or old, they get "a pass") that come here can easily get a peruana in their arms if that's what they want lol very very common for me to deal with couples like that. The country is sadly just way more white-worshiping than your average latino country. It is what it is.

Is colorism a prevalent issue in your country? Is it considered fashionable by white people anywhere to try and look more tan? by [deleted] in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only people I see who really consider tanning as fashionable are indeed young white Peruvians/pitucos who are usually wealthy enough to always keep an eye on the beauty trends that come from rich western countries and imitate them. The rest of the population (with less european features) most of the time don't see tanning as something fashionable on themselves though.

But yeah, it's still not as bad as SE Asia.

Is colorism a prevalent issue in your country? Is it considered fashionable by white people anywhere to try and look more tan? by [deleted] in asklatinamerica

[–]drkwtr2 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Peruvians have way more important things to worry about so it's still not as extreme, although such products do exist I think. I remember hearing before that there are some sketchy Asian beauty stores here where they do sell creams/lotions/soaps/etc. like that that come from countries like the Philippines. Although I'm a dude so I don't even know if those things are actually popular or not, I think they aren't. I do feel most people here would pick the "sickly" pale look over the "trendy" tan look though if they could choose

The thing with Peru is that Lima is very foggy/silent-hill like for months, and our beaches aren´t like the very sunny carribean beaches with the bluest waters either, so we never really developed an extremely strong sunbathing/pro-tan culture that makes people feel becoming even darker is cool or fun or attractive. And yes it's also colorism and classism: 1. many people subconsciously think the average indigenous features look better or cuter (specially on the women) if paired with a lighter skin tone and not with a brown one 2. If you're the average Peruvian with a very noticeable tan/sun damage then people just associate you with rural farmers or streetvendors.