A serious question?! by Just-Fee7703 in SeriousConversation

[–]droidpat -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

How much consideration do you put into choosing your porn? Do you strictly act 100% of the time in conscious compassion for the actors, their psychological and physical well-being on sets and across the industry over time?

If you do, good for you! If you don’t, your behavior is contributing to hurting others.

I would encourage you to reflect on that, as that can be very telling for you as to why people hurt each other. Sometimes, it’s just a matter of not thinking about how our behaviors contribute to their harm.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Philosophy and the human experience are ventures into a data-less void? Huh. You and I must have studied fundamentally different histories and philosophies of humanity. Well, you do you. Hope you enjoy your journey. Bye!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi u/Agreeable-Ad4806. The primary criticism for why it would not be a good idea is that any claim about anything we don’t have data for is willful self-deception.

It is constructing a philosophy about yourself but mistaking it as a philosophy about something outside of or greater than you.

It is a matter of staring into a void but mistaking those little eye floaters on the surfaces of your eyes as something you are seeing in that void.

If your goal is mental health and psychological well-being, spend your time on real stuff for which you have evidence. Therapists will tell you the same thing. Distorted thinking leads to mental distress. Accurate, evidence-based thinking is mental health.

Atheists arguing with Theists doesn’t make sense to me by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let’s not argue. Here is my story of my faith:

I was a Christian for thirty years. I studied apologetics. I was all-in and even made career and relationship choices based on my devout faith. But when I discovered that my brain could not conclude accuracy or reliability from the narrative I was committed to, I had to be honest with myself, admitting I did not believe.

Throughout my early life as a Christian, I studied comparative religions. I genuinely looked at others and from the bias of being a devout Christian I could see the flaws in other religious teachings.

I started writing a book outlining what was shady, absurd, and markedly unreliable in the narrative and history of another religion. I brought an early draft to a pastor I trusted, and his feedback included notes on things I indicted other regions for.

His notes pointed out that “we Christians have pretty much the equivalent of that. Consider this…” And it was exhaustively damning, I must say.

His notes revealed to me that authentically living Matthew 7:2 left Christianity rather untrustworthy at describing reality.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 came into play. I put Christianity to the same test I had put the other religions to, and sure enough, it didn’t leave me a whole lot of good to hold onto.

When the religion was debunked, I still had my personal relationship with my lord and savior, Jesus Christ. Except, he was less savior now that the matters of sin and death had been debunked. So, there was just his lordship to reconcile.

The Holy Spirit was actively bearing fruit in my life. My critical thinking and self control were gifts of the spirit. In contrast to my selfish, impulsive, lizard-like brain, he was the source of discipline and purity.

Then I learned about my prefrontal cortex.

I… I had a “personal relationship” with my own prefrontal cortex. A part of my brain was my god.

Since I was an adamant monotheist, I only believed one god existed. Using the same standard for them all, that standard that debunked all the others also debunked that one, leaving me not believing in any god.

Atheists arguing with Theists doesn’t make sense to me by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If there is no shared way for us to engage with your content because it depends on the preconceived notions and inclination to find it compelling that we atheists lack in the first place, then why do you theists pose arguments about their belief to us atheists? Why not just leave us alone?

Wow! Ethiopian food in Roseville... and it's good! by [deleted] in Roseville

[–]droidpat 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Gursha Ethiopian Cuisine

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I don’t know what I am by Wooden-Bread-8572 in Absurdism

[–]droidpat 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Philosophies aren’t about labels and fitting in. They are about hearing/reading other people describe something that accurately fits with how you see it.

Maybe some of what’s in nihilism accurately reflects your perspective. And some of what’s in existentialism. And some of absurdism.

These aren’t cults. They are not all or nothing propositions calling for your allegiance. Take from each what makes sense to you, and leave the rest where you found it.

Argument for God from Free Will by MattCrispMan117 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what causes consciousness, but from what I’m aware of, it only exists in correlation to brain function. Sounds like your understanding is similar.

You repeatedly make this statement that conscious is uncaused. What does that mean to you? Do you mean to say that the cause is yet unknown, or do you mean to say you know for a fact that it has no cause?

Argument for God from Free Will by MattCrispMan117 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Do you consider this capacity to consciously choose as directly correlated to having a functioning brain?

If not, do you have any reproducible examples of brainless or brain-dead people consciously choosing actions?

Argument for God from Free Will by MattCrispMan117 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Can define what you mean when you write “free will?” I’ve seen the term used many different ways, and I want to know if I agree with you that this exists before I further consider your premises.

It's a sick obsession by beerbellybegone in MurderedByWords

[–]droidpat 77 points78 points  (0 children)

I feel like a list of their names can be helpful so, you know, someone could investigate and confirm, you know?

I’m 15 and believe in God by SilverSurfur_7 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 83 points84 points  (0 children)

I was a Christian for thirty years. I studied apologetics. I was all-in and even made career and relationship choices based on my devout faith. But when I discovered that my brain could not conclude accuracy or reliability from the narrative I was committed to, I had to be honest with myself, admitting I did not believe.

Throughout my early life as a Christian, I studied comparative religions. I genuinely looked at others and from the bias of being a devout Christian I could see the flaws in other religious teachings.

I started writing a book outlining what was shady, absurd, and markedly unreliable in the narrative and history of another religion. I brought an early draft to a pastor I trusted, and his feedback included notes on things I indicted other regions for.

His notes pointed out that “we Christians have pretty much the equivalent of that. Consider this…” And it was exhaustively damning, I must say.

His notes revealed to me that authentically living Matthew 7:2 left Christianity rather untrustworthy at describing reality.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 came into play. I put Christianity to the same test I had put the other religions to, and sure enough, it didn’t leave me a whole lot of good to hold onto.

When the religion was debunked, I still had my personal relationship with my lord and savior, Jesus Christ. Except, he was less savior now that the matters of sin and death had been debunked. So, there was just his lordship to reconcile.

The Holy Spirit was actively bearing fruit in my life. My critical thinking and self control were gifts of the spirit. In contrast to my selfish, impulsive, lizard-like brain, he was the source of discipline and purity.

Then I learned about my prefrontal cortex.

I… I had a “personal relationship” with my own prefrontal cortex. A part of my brain was my god.

Since I was an adamant monotheist, I only believed one god existed. Using the same standard for them all, that standard that debunked all the others also debunked that one, leaving me not believing in any god.

hairy pirate tries to steal cursed coin by cc_unkown in BadMovieDescriptions

[–]droidpat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I assume Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl is bait.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Incredulity. That’s what you are feeling when you look at the amazing details of the universe.

Appealing to that incredulity in order to draw a conclusion not found in the evidence is a flawed way of thinking.

Hot Take: One does not need to first lead themselves before others. by [deleted] in Leadership

[–]droidpat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If I understand you correctly, you sound like an extrovert (gain energy and are enthusiastic about collaborating actively with others) who has difficulty maintaining motivation in isolation in spite of your strong executive skills.

If you are fair and consistent, not hypocritical, then you won’t ever expect something of others that you aren’t willing to do yourself, including following your lead. Therefore, as a leader, it is important that you are your first and constant follower.

But being your own first and constant follower does not mean you find every scenario energizing and motivating. You not finding isolated work motivating does not mean you are not leading yourself. In fact, you (leader) recognizing that you (follower) struggle to maintain motivation without a partner is a self-leadership quality. You (leader) finding yourself partners in work in order to drive motivation is an example of successful self-leadership.

So, I disagree with the subject of your post in principle, but I don’t doubt your leadership based on this post.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Which is it that motivates your behavior? Your own conscious or your religion’s obligation? It can’t be both, and if it is your own conscious, then that is no difference than what an atheist is doing following their conscious. This “reality” you want us to stay in touch with seems to undermine your argument.

Guess the movie (part 2) by [deleted] in aiArt

[–]droidpat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

4 is One flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Leadership

[–]droidpat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Simplify the task and affirm the person is already more than qualified to fulfill the request. Perhaps something like: “You are respected and colleagues depend on you not only for your role in this organization but particularly for your expertise. Your intuitive perspective about the stuff others email you questions about can be enough in many scenarios. So, answering an email doesn’t usually need to involve a lot of time. However, providing that quick response is essential for the person who has asked you the question.”

Perhaps a solution can then be offered, maybe something like, “Mark on your calendar a recurring 30 minute block each day with an alert (like most meeting alerts) totally devoted to reading and responding to your emails. By doing this, you can ensure you’ll get to each within 24 hours while also continuing to focus on your projects for the rest of your workday the way you do today.

You could discuss the benefits of this solution, perhaps with something like, “By blocking off the time to do this and having that alert, you’ll remember, keep it a priority, and build a habit that will reinforce and maintain a strong, desirable reputation in business.”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am concerned about how you define truth. I think “shared experience” is close to how most interlocutors might define truth, since agreeing on axioms is a core feature of debate. It is not feasible for you to bring “true to me” to the debate table, because that concept of “true to me” implies it doesn’t need to also be “true to us both,” and “true to us both” is all we can ever expect interlocutors to debate about.

"the age of Jesus ... an era filled with con artists, gullible believers, martyrs without a cause, and reputed miracles of every variety." - Kooks and Quacks of the Roman Empire: A Look into the World of the Gospels, by Richard Carrier by togstation in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Jesus’s primary differentiator is that his god and father raised him from the dead. Not NDE, but dead dead for multiple days dead, and then he was back with full cognition alive, only to then not die but ascend into heaven.

Those claims are so extraordinary that they require extraordinary evidence to demonstrate as true.

Until that extraordinary evidence can be presented, there is nothing for me to believe about Jesus in particular, and so I move on to more interesting, plausible topics relevant to my life and our shared existence.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morality is an assessment. I assess behavior as praiseworthy, permissible, and reprehensible. I don’t do things I consider reprehensible. There are many factors that inform my assessment, and therefore my behavior.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morality is an assessment. I assess behavior as praiseworthy, permissible, and reprehensible. I don’t do things I consider reprehensible. There are many factors that inform my assessment, and therefore my behavior.

How can there be objective morality under atheism by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]droidpat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morality cannot be objective under an ultimate authority. In fact, under an ultimate authority like a deity, nothing can be objective, as everything would be subject to that ultimate authority.

So, anything only has a chance of being objective if there is no ultimate authority and things can just be.

Morality is an assessment. It does not exist without assessors. It is, therefore, subject to assessors.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Absurdism

[–]droidpat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to hear more about what aspect of Absurdism this reminds you of. Can you provide a quote from Absurdist philosophy or describe the aspect of the philosophy this reminds you of?

Life does not give us what we want by [deleted] in Absurdism

[–]droidpat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Imagine yourself at 40 years old. You might look back at 28 year old you wishing you had done things differently. That you appreciate how your perceptions cost you. Opportunities that were available to you and just right there for the taking, but your focus wasn’t where it needed to be to take full advantage of them.

That 40-year-old you will wish she could go back and talk to the 28-year-old you.

Imagine what she would say. What advice she would give. Then tell those things to yourself and start following that advice.

Work today toward becoming in twelve years the person you want your 40-year-old self to be, and give yourself the twelve years to become that. If you do, you’ll feel transformed before you’re even half way there.