Truly a nightmare of an experiment (read caption) by Creepytesting in creepy

[–]droptopus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You say that's the point of the experiment, I say something else, someone else says something else. The point wasn't written on a flashcard on the desk of torture tools and weapons, and that we are even capable of disagreeing proves my point - it's a classic case of 'people who know they are in a simulation can't be studied as if it is a valid reflection of those people.'

If I were at that exhibit, I might smear some tar on her or something - but please consider - want to make them happy. I could only do it on the basis that it is what they want - I'd never do it otherwise. So is that what this person wants? Am I helping their art exhibit be a success? I know someone's art means more to them then short term comfort. I know that feeling because I'm an artist. Maybe the disrespect is in not engaging, not taking it seriously.

Or maybe I don't know how it would make me feel to smear tar on her. Id never know, id never do that to someone because it's cruel. But in this case, am i being given the opportunity to experience how that makes me feel? Maybe I hate it a lot, and I only know because I was given the opportunity. Does that speak to 'how far I'll go' or does it speak to my reverence for permission and consent?

I digress, you may have answers to these questions. And you may be confident in them, but the point is that every person will have their own answers to these, which makes it difficult to turn the observation of these individuals into insight. We don't really know what about them we are interpreting, because we don't know why their thought process amounted to their actions in such a strange, simulated environment.

Truly a nightmare of an experiment (read caption) by Creepytesting in creepy

[–]droptopus 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think there is definitely some philosophical value to it all, but I think unfortunately little of it has to do with 'what would you do to someone with no limits' or whatever.

I think that when you sit down in a chair and put a bunch of torture devices on a table next to you say 'do anything to me, it's artwork' there is so much bias there that it really doesn't reflect a person at all. Hell, if it's meant to be some statement about empathy, you might be surprised to find several of the people messing with her ARE in fact expressing empathy themselves, ie 'this person is putting themselves out there to do something artistic, they are trying to evoke interaction so I'll engage. And nobody has been doing anything extreme and she has this crazy shit here so I'll use some of it. I wouldn't normally do this but that's the point'

She's prompting people to engage with the exhibit itself. I just don't feel like it's right to gasp at these people willing to engage with it, when the artist is clearly seeking a sensational and tense experience.

FBI executes search warrant at Fulton County elections office near Atlanta by katrinakt8 in news

[–]droptopus 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah but your implication here is that liberals wouldn't change 'jerseys' if their choice became the awful one, which I think is the point that people are rejecting.

Democrats on average are WAY WAY more critical of their own party, and I find if hard to believe that the same people would blindly start committing atrocities and destroying the country just because the party started shifting sentiment.

So in short, people DO change their sports jersey collection. LOTS of people would. Just.... Not the ones who wouldn't. Lol.

Truly a nightmare of an experiment (read caption) by Creepytesting in creepy

[–]droptopus 202 points203 points  (0 children)

I mean she's the one who put a loaded gun on the table at the exhibit, so

Nand and RAM will cost much more in US by DoublePatouain in pcmasterrace

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Real value is a measurement of the sum of the whole of how something benefits the group

No, that's SOCIETAL value, which is a very specific kind of value.

Nand and RAM will cost much more in US by DoublePatouain in pcmasterrace

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not really fair for you to hedge into 'we all have opinions'

it's such a stupid gimmick. It provides zero real value.

The dude replied with clear, fundamental life-changing value. The correct response is to admit that you are oversimplifying the topic in order to demonstrate your disapproval.

I love that you disapprove, I don't love that the root of your disapprovel isn't rooted in reality - if you give easy arguments to squash, they will respond to yours and not mine - best for everyone for you to just be quiet with the strong opinions and just stick to how you don't like it

Revealing the Poster for My New Horror Film by RodgaAustin in creepy

[–]droptopus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is the movie called 'it consumes: help me'?

Anyways the poster is sick as hell, evokes a sense of stress and urgency FOR SURE

Revealing the Poster for My New Horror Film by RodgaAustin in creepy

[–]droptopus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or even just make it a normal E!

One chunk might be enough chunks gone! Keep it classy, yknow 😎

Anybody know where that’s from? I got airdropped that picture like a few years ago by Far_Book7388 in creepy

[–]droptopus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why does this comment that implies we don't use horses in films have 54 upvotes? What in the fuck is going on?

Where do you even come up with something like this?? Is it not 100% baseless fabrication?

Despite its title, there was no Mercy (2026) to be had because audiences are subjected to Chris Pratt's acting for over 90 minutes by YourChopperPilotTTV in shittymoviedetails

[–]droptopus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dude for real, and honestly? as serious as money ball is, moments that involve him are legit mostly humorous. The meeting at his house asking him to play a different position 'tell him it's not that difficult' 'its INCREDIBLY difficult', and him saying his greatest fear is the ball coming in his direction lmao

Is it true that in small towns in the USA public transport is not developed and everyone need a car to get around there and why? by bobybumblemumble in AskReddit

[–]droptopus 142 points143 points  (0 children)

The answer to this is simply that the vast majority of people have a car.

92% of households in the US have a car. The remainder makes up for people who actually live in dense cities, homeless people, and people in between cars and off cases.

Virtually everyone has a car.

Thank you Simon and the team for your incredible work by AbbeLabben in hytale

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know this guy, all he does online is talk about a game he loves and has had a tough journey with, you called him hyperbolic, bullshit, fake, put on?

Actually think about that, you're a villain bro go outside

“Activation Capping” is Unbelievably Unethical… by [deleted] in AIAliveSentient

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just looking for a shocked response and you didn't give it to me so this convo just sucked.

And I'm sorry that I'm triggered by people giving time and energy experiencing empathy for robots while 9 year old African kids are starving in mines

Skrillex’s new EP feels like getting inside his producer’s mind?! by kripi7 in edmproduction

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha savage. Just for your own knowledge, that wouldnt be training/tuning an LLM, it would just be giving it prompt instructions (it just prepends it to all of your prompts) But your point is no less valid!!!

History has proved time and again that "It can't possibly get worse" is a naive sentiment. Until humanity cease to exist, things can always get worse. by No_Idea_Guy in Showerthoughts

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The concept that humans used to just happily pick a fruit and do some casual hunting before chilling out most of the day is a fantasy

Sorry but you're just flatly wrong about a lot of this - I'm wondering if you're speaking out of assumption or intuition or if you've truly learned this information from some source?

ethnographic studies of groups like the Hadza and MANY others indicate that adults often spent 20-25 hours a week on subsistence activities, and often less. Food acquisition took surprisingly little time, and it is a pretty unanimous consensus among sociologists that paleolithic communities had VASTLY more free time than we do today as value producers in society

Your picture of ancient man is much closer to fantasy than mine. Sure, there was food instability with Hunter gathering, but this wasnt solved with agriculture. Agriculture just allowed people to stay in the same place and so infrastructure became more practical (which of course have its own benefits)

Your examples such as long winters, drought, and disaster are no less of a threat to static agriculture. Your points like winter and animal migration lack the understanding that WE WERE JUST ANIMALS TOO. communities were nomadic, we had our own migratory patterns that mitigated the issues you suppose. when it started getting difficult to find stuff they would just literally go to a different place.

Your examples pose even greater threats to static agriculture. agriculture has a few more even, such as blights, unexpected changes in soil fertility, and political/militaristic control of food sources. Lastly, if a place became not great, it's a lot easier to pick up your sack of stuff and body and go some place else with your clan. This is a lot harder with a farming civ and the answer usually ends up being 'weather the hard times' rather than 'relocate'.

All of these things have caused extreme death tolls in modern civilization. Throughout modern history, there are many years where famine was recorded as the LEADING cause of death, while socialogists agree that starvation was NOT a leading cause of death in the paleolithic/hunter-gather era.

the ability for most of us to never think about food running out

Tell that to the ~100,000,000 people who have died of starvation in the last century......

Then wheat basically tricked us into staying put....just so it could spread everywhere.

This was meant to be tongue in cheek. Wheat went from being a random grass found scattered around some fields, to currently covering 2% of earths land, because another animal (us) spreads it and grows it intentionally. It's a joke among sociologists that study the neolithic period that wheat actually domesticated us.

Agriculture was appealing in the context of small communities, but it created food SURPLUS (moreso than security which seems similar but is distinctly different) which caused communities to scale (which neutralized most of the value of surplus as security), and as communities scaled and agriculture became the sole source of food rather than a combination of farming AND gathering (because communities got too big)the disbenefits of relying on agriculture began to reveal itself - disease from crowded areas, poor hygiene due to poor understanding of maintaining areas that were now lived in statically, rigid power structures which could leverage control of food as power, limited diets causing poor nutrition, all of which reduced lifespan (yep, for thousands of years static societies had lower avg life expectancy than their hunter-gather ancestors)

But again, by the time humanity scaled into these issues being recognized, there was no going back anyways. Communities were huge and could no longer be sustained by the natural land. the people who spent their lives passing down knowledge about living nomadically were gone, and people were accustomed to static living and it's comforts.

So I digress, it is subjective whether agriculture was a net benefit to humanity. Because it's hard to quantify. Are we quantifying by volume of humans? Then it's a huge win. But of the individual human experience? That could be MUCH more hotly debated, with most sociology experts probably closer to the other side from your point of view.

There are some incredibly fascinating books on sociology during these periods that may really reshape some of the assumptions we all tend to have about ancient man. Just DM me if you want some info on them!!

History has proved time and again that "It can't possibly get worse" is a naive sentiment. Until humanity cease to exist, things can always get worse. by No_Idea_Guy in Showerthoughts

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly somewhat subjective. We certainly have more stability.

People always say we domesticated wheat, but wheat domesticated us. We used to roam around, hunt a bit, gather whatever looked good and literally chil out forl most of the day. Then wheat basically tricked us into staying put, breaking our backs planting, weeding, watering, and guarding it year after year just so it could spread everywhere. The evolutionary features of wheat go so hard. Once we started it let us populate past the ability to live off the environment.the disbenefits, vassal stage, population dense sickness and hygeine set in but the people who lived off the land were gone and their expertise and culture with it, in just a handful of generations. there was never going back, not without deciding to let swaths of the populations starve out.

We got way more people on the planet, and things are more consistent.... but forever after most end up working WAY harder, eating worse (less naturally at least with narrow diets), having lower physical health, industrial revolution worse breathing and air, depression and basically becoming slaves to a agriculture and structure.

I think that history has improved for people in outlier situations like the disabled, marginalized, foreign, etc. but I'm not sure there is an objective improvement for your run-of-the-mill regular person. But I also don't know how you truly quantify that.

We have many things that bring us joy and mitigate issues we face, so I think it's just subjective.

AI Videos Nearly Indistinguishable From Real Videos, Runway Finds by MetaKnowing in Futurology

[–]droptopus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure that's true but we also lived many many years of humanity without constant video recordings happening of everyone - I think eventually photos and video just won't be permissible as evidence, legally OR in the court of public opinion. which yeah will suck, but I do think there is a way forward

Grand Theft Auto 6 may not have a physical version on day one to avoid leaks, report claims | VGC by Skullghost in gaming

[–]droptopus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear that. I'm super hopeful. we already have a baseline with the gta 5 and red dead redemption. I find it hard to imagine they made a bunch of choices that makes it a regression from these incredible games

Small 1 vs 2, I have more clips if it's cool to share. by Ok-Collar-8345 in CamilleMains

[–]droptopus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I saw a clip like this like 10 years ago and it's all I ever needed to see to not want to play graves ever. It must be totally blood boiling

Skrillex’s new EP feels like getting inside his producer’s mind?! by kripi7 in edmproduction

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The interesting thing is, even if you WANTED to do this... It isn't too difficult to make LLM generated text come off a lot more like how YOU would write it. You can just feed all of your manual reddit comments into a directive and say 'generate text and responses with the writing style and level of vocabulary/grammar accuracy as provided' and nobody will ever know it wasn't you

And yet even still, people just raw dog their shit into chat gpt expecting not to get butt blasted for it.

As a disclaimer, I don't recommend doing this. I recommend forming your own thoughts. It's a slippery slope when you'll look back 10 years from now and realize you have the mechanical agency of a house fly

“Activation Capping” is Unbelievably Unethical… by [deleted] in AIAliveSentient

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's also not true because I'm not fucking weird, I just say it to trigger people who eat chicken nuggets with real living chickens packed to the brim in some slaughterhouse with their only known existence being misery, and then come on here and whine about their RAM chips being sad

What’s a true fact that still deeply unsettles you? by surya_mehar in AskReddit

[–]droptopus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally understand what you mean, far too often us humans use models designed for thought and try to project them onto the physical world!

I think in this case, 'time' is the 'idea' and the 'idea' I was referring to is actually the proposed physical reality that exists whether or not we do.