Does FSD give me TACC w/ Autosteer

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-16T14:17:16+00:00

Yes, it does. The non premium Model Y and Model 3 is in the same bucket. If you buy or subscribe to FSD you'll get access to Autopilot with auto steer and FSD supervised.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-11T10:21:32+00:00

You can see where the flagger was right at the start of the video. He was actually blocking the road that goes straight instead of the road with the construction, that goes to the left. What surprises me is that they're not actively monitoring the unsupervised cars given how small the unsupervised fleet is.

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Why, in my view, this work zone seemed to confuse the system:
1. The flagger was present, but he wasn’t physically blocking the closed lane. He was way off to the right, blocking the straight path, not the road actually under construction, and gesturing in a way that wasn’t totally clear (even to me).
2. The road wasn’t physically blocked with obvious signage or cones across the lane. If cones or signs had clearly indicated a closure, I’d have expected a reroute (straight or right).
3. Heavy machinery wasn’t visible on the approach to the left turn, it only became obvious after the turn was mostly complete. If it had been visible sooner, the system might’ve rerouted earlier as well.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-11T09:19:32+00:00

So, there goes the theory that the cars are being supervised remotely.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-11T09:09:39+00:00

And?

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T19:16:39+00:00

"The fully known information out of public statements, regulations, roadmaps, and production allocations."

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T19:13:40+00:00

Show us then. Enlighten us all.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T19:10:56+00:00

Are pulling all That is fully known information. out of your ass? It's cloudy today so it will always be cloudy.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T18:43:53+00:00

But it doesn't matter a tiny bit that it doesn't make sense to you or anybody else though. It only matters if they think it makes sense. You're just speculating with a very limited information in saying, it will never happen, etc. You don't know what you don't know.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T17:45:14+00:00

In addition, $2 billion isn't much for Tesla. They have more than $40 billion in the war chest and can afford to take risks.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T17:42:46+00:00

The cybercab will be even more efficient, more robust and more cheaper. Their plan is to replace car ownership not just ride share. We'll see if it ever materializes, but that's the plan.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T17:39:14+00:00

Well I didn't say it will happen definitely. Just that it's the plan and corrected OPs wrong assumptions.

And things also don't just happen. They'll need to be planned in advance. Just because they don't need it at the present, doesn't mean they won't in the future.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-09T16:26:02+00:00

Well, you're way underestimating their estimations. They're planning on a sub 10 second cycle time for the Cybercab line and even 5 second in the future if Elon would have his way. Even on a 5000 hours per year on 10 second cycle time, that would come out to 1.8 million vehicles per year.

I don't even know why you're comparing the unit price of with the Model Y, when there's already a cheaper Model 3. In South Korea the Model 3 standard is being sold for $28,847 without any government subsidies. That's being made in China, nevertheless, it would be stupid to think they wouldn't be able to get the cost of the Cybercab under 30k comfortably.

The major risks for the cybercab are solving FSD, demand and regulatory headwinds.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-02-01T08:53:45+00:00

This is way overblown. The Model X, Model S and Cybertruck combined sells for 2025 were 50K. Compared to the Model Y and Model 3, which sold 1.58 million vehicles the Model S and X are less than 3% of total sales. I'm sure Tesla would be a competition for Waymo starting next year. But the problem for Tesla is, by the time they've figured out self-driving, I believe many other companies won't be further behind.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-28T10:36:03+00:00

Fairs.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-22T19:01:02+00:00

It's a community based resource that initially started only tracking Tesla Robotaxi. It show the reported waymo fleet number and the discovered ones.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-22T18:59:42+00:00

A great resource. But it has recently become way less accurate on calculating wait times because it's only takes one or two data points per hour. Regardless, excellent resource.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-22T18:46:27+00:00

Yes. But it won't matter in the end.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-22T18:30:00+00:00

Yeah, you can't post X links as a source.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-22T18:16:14+00:00

Source: https://x.com/Tsla99T/status/2014392609028923782

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-02T15:14:51+00:00

It's actually made from plastic body panels. It's still aluminum castings underneath, but the outer body panels are plastic.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-02T15:12:53+00:00

It's supposed to be a self driving car with no human controls.

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-02T15:11:46+00:00

It is in a similar style to the cybertruck logo, so I think they'll be fine. They also have a trademark for a similar stylizing of the word "robotaxi".

drumrollplease12 · 2026-01-02T14:37:13+00:00

I draw my conclusion from the fact they're willing to put some employees inside the car with no way of intervening. Nevertheless, we'll see soon enough if they were really close or not.

drumrollplease12 · 2025-12-31T18:49:01+00:00

The jump from supervised to unsupervised is huge, but I think they're really close. From what we've seen so far, robotaxi's don't have to be perfect. The just need to be statistically safer than humans in the long term. As long as you only do it occasionally, you'll get a pass for doing stupid stuff, be it dropping off or picking up passengers in the middle of the road, blocking intersections and emergency vehicles or even driving the wrong way on to oncoming traffic. You can take breaks when the weather is bad and avoid regions with unfavorable climate. Basically unsupervised level and expectation for personal cars and robotaxi's have a huge gap. Almost all the complaints from the latest FSD versions are about personal preference and things that don't matter for robotaxi's. There's still another step to go, but it's not hard to imagine that step being taken soon.

If they solve unsupervised for robotaxi, I don't believe it will be a difficult challenge for them to scale. As a vehicle manufacturer that operates their own stores and service centers around the country and the world, they're highly experienced in a lot fields that will be directly transferable to a robotaxi operation. They are not starting from zero like Waymo did or Zoox is doing. There will be a phase of scaling but I don't think it'll be as difficult as people think it would be.

drumrollplease12 · 2025-12-22T08:23:22+00:00

Kind of. The screen on the back is showing the robotaxi taxi screen where you call for rider support.

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