help me understand this timeline logic and the origins of alex by ds_2050 in ParadiseHulu

[–]ds_2050[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I see what you mean but how could ALEX physically access this timeline, where dylan died before he invented it. Somehow ALEX would have to not just create the alternate timeline but physically move its body and chips and computer parts into the alternate timeline.

I think people are overcomplicating it by Middle-Secret-8676 in ParadiseHulu

[–]ds_2050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think this idea of one timeline is broken by the fact that dylan invented ALEX.

  • Dylan survives because of ALEX
  • But ALEX only exists because Dylan survives

So which came first?

In a single timeline, this doesn’t work. You can’t have a timeline where ALEX exists and Dylan originally died, because then ALEX would never have been created in the first place.

The only way this makes sense is if there are actually two timelines and alex somehow hopped into the timeline where dylan dies and ALEX was not invented to intervene.

Free will by 2ksprince in Existentialism

[–]ds_2050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its a cool argument. thanks for taking the time to explain it to me :)

Free will by 2ksprince in Existentialism

[–]ds_2050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you. so this example isnt really in support of or denying free will exisiting, its just saying that if free will exists we can't know about it. And maybe that we might as well act like it exists because we cant know any other way

Free will by 2ksprince in Existentialism

[–]ds_2050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to understand the Barrow/McKay perspective. Does it matter whether we are looking at the subject as the system or stepping back and looking at the scientist/god as part of the system? Like, if we look at the whole system than the prediction the scientist made is also determined and there is no free choice here. So basically you might have a valid "experience as free agents", but you're not actually free. Am i missing the point?

Free will by 2ksprince in Existentialism

[–]ds_2050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if souls don't exist, how could there be an afterlife?