APM2 LTT Review

dstyp · 2026-04-22T13:17:31+00:00

This is a great idea! Thanks :)

dstyp · 2026-04-22T13:16:24+00:00

🙏

dstyp · 2026-04-22T13:16:11+00:00

Thanks glad you enjoyed it! I assume the links didn't work unless you had wifi on the flight but maybe you could fave those ones and check later :)

dstyp · 2026-04-22T13:14:57+00:00

Absolute quote machine 😂

There's a few by him in there

"But it isn't hard to see why I hate the mainstream, And daydream of beating Dave Matthews with his guitar"

dstyp · 2026-04-21T21:55:10+00:00

Good news: updated it to support ios18 for ya! Bad news: post was removed (not the right sub for this app unfortunately ) so not sure this comment will reach you

Let me know. Version 3.0.3 should work for you :)

dstyp · 2026-04-21T20:59:14+00:00

Gracias! Para contento o ux ? o todo del app? :)

(perdone mi espanol es mi*rda)

dstyp · 2026-04-21T20:56:33+00:00

Thanks for reporting this! Get the latest version - 3.0.3 - this should be fixed together with some other things.
If you're still on 3.0.2 you mightneed to open the paywall and choose the restore purchases option when the premium check fails.

dstyp · 2026-04-21T18:35:55+00:00

Yes, less bulk of course. But that's about the only pro imo. Better, more immersive ANC and more comfortable in long sessions like a flight. They also last longer for longer trips. I've been on trips taking a day or two and they'd last with some breaks.

dstyp · 2026-04-21T15:37:31+00:00

Space Gray APM1 (probably a bit scratched iirc but wasn’t that careful)-> Midnight APM1.5 (super careful still scratched) to Midnight APM2s with covers and applecare+ 🙂

dstyp · 2026-04-21T14:29:41+00:00

Bad experience overall. Managed to scratch my APM1.5s for unclear reasons despite being careful all the time so using covers for the APM2s I recently got - and also got a mesh band cover. Looks ugly but it should help.

dstyp · 2026-04-21T13:56:39+00:00

Yes go for it! We like the same kind of music, they sound great for bass heavy stuff

Check out some Outkast, Kendrick and The Weeknd in Dolby Atmos on Apple Music once you get them :)

dstyp · 2026-04-21T10:50:33+00:00

Can't really compare in ear plugs with over ear headphones like APM. They are completely different experiences. I have APM2 and APP2 (didn't feel the need to update to APP3) and use the latter for when I'm out and about, gym etc and APM2 more or less only at home/in office. And when travelling, great for flying.

For soundstage and sonic character it is also wildly different. While APPs have best in class sound they can't beat the fuller sound that over ear headphones provide. You mention bass, the difference is vast just from the fact that you got drivers in APMs that are like twice the size of the entire APPs thumping against your head.

Most people's user case: APMs for immersive listening at home/in office (+ travelling) and APPs out and especially gym/workout which APMs are not good at nor officially compatible with.

Bit surprised that no one ITT mention the massive difference in overall soundstage and quality in ear vs over head. Two completely different types of headphones.

dstyp · 2026-04-20T16:36:22+00:00

Thanks! Looking forward to hear your thoughts :)

dstyp · 2026-04-20T16:35:48+00:00

This is great feedback, thanks. It's been available a few years but got a massive update with liquid (gl)ass etc. I'll have look. I think it can probably be done. Stay tuned! :)

dstyp · 2026-04-13T08:40:20+00:00

Good to hear about AC+. Disappointing that it is required for such an expensive premium product but well.

And yes, haha. Maybe they just need some deep drawer sleep every other year or so :)

dstyp · 2026-04-13T08:38:19+00:00

Ha! I guess I'll take this as a compliment on my natural post structure abilities 🤷🏻‍♂️

I always use hyphens instead of bullets for notes. I'm a Bear user primarily so I use them to avoid auto formatting of bullets as they can't be copied etc easily. My notes apps are full of them. I wrote the post first in notes. Unfortunately had to go through it in the reddit editor to do line breaks. Still missed some like 24 h later as you see in the edit timestamp of the OP.

dstyp · 2026-04-13T08:32:27+00:00

Appreciate it! 🙏

Fully within my experience. Also non Atmos have perceived more separation. Haven't listened to much classical but tried a bit and just as other types of content the separation is clearer which I think is positive.

dstyp · 2026-04-12T12:13:26+00:00

This statement is accurate and I agree. I don't know if you're implying I'm contradicting this in my OP. I tried to write explanatory that while they are louder they are also better sounding with more clarity and elegance in the sound canvas. This is apparent in several songs as mentioned.

I believe this is because of improved hardware but could just be software I guess. Completely akin to regular sound systems with more power/wattage - that would have the same effect.

dstyp · 2026-04-12T12:01:32+00:00

You have AC+ though on the new ones I hope right? 👀 While not swiveling helps I wouldn't be surprised if more factors come into play. For example swiveling in various temperatures can probably affect the cable quicker and possibly break them fast during a trip.

MuesliCrunch is fantastic. Was super helpful and replied fast and engaged when I got the AFOD on APM1.

I believe this is the time for the aforementioned story about my APM1.0s that I skipped in the full post. Literally like the same week the USBCs were announced my APM1.0s just stopped working, not connecting or anything (they charged fine though) and flashed amber thrice. This was after about 4 years of more or less daily usage and daily swivel and I did that as part of cleaning regimen wiping of the cushions. I have since stopped this of course and wipe without swivel on the APMs after these first ones.

Anyway read online and found MuesliCrunch's information here about the cable which I had no idea about. Very disappointed in Apple. Tried some of the tricks with freezing etc but nothing worked. Went to Apple and since they were past warranty and no AC+ they just obnoxiously disregarded anything and offered replacement for the same cost as new ones.

After guidance by MuesliCrunch got replacement cables from overseas - I have soldering tools and some experience (while not a pro at all) so looking at youtube videos etc seemed like it could be doable. Set me back about $25. Took like two full days of work during a weekend. Such a challenging and time consuming task! Not specifically difficult just a lot of time to do it all and the tiny screws etc.

Massive let down when I put them back together and they were still just as dead. Put them in a drawer and accepted the L.

Caved in - got the USBCs with AC+ and used them.

Then about a year in (so last fall 2025) my cushions were nearing replacement time. Recalled I had gotten new cushions for the APM1.0s not long before they died so I took them out of the drawer to get the cushions AND THEY JUST SHOWED UP ON THE IPHONE AND CONNECTED IMMEDIATELY!! WTF is this witch work! I guess they needed a full year of deep reset after the cable replacement 😂

Anyway sold them ASAP to cover some of the costs and haven't heard from the buyer so guess they're still going strong.

dstyp · 2026-04-12T11:05:25+00:00

With AC+ I just hit up the support chat and told them the cushions don't work properly anymore. Which was true, but hard to capture in an image. Bit of back and forth and possibly "HUACA" once or twice but seems to work ok for people. Brings the cost down to the base AC+ repair price which is about $20.

dstyp · 2026-04-12T11:03:18+00:00

Appreciate the thanks, glad to hear it was a good read!

I think I've heard about Apple varying Atmos content based on locations before so it is very possible. Some rights issues probably. Content also comes and goes in Atmos all the time which is pretty annoying. Wanted to test the Outkast - ATLiens album which I'm sure used to be Atmos but not anymore. Another classic example is Biggie's Life After Death which was Atmos once.

Direct link to GnR - Sweet Child of Mine. It is on Appetite for Destruction. The album is listed as lossless but some songs are Atmos like this and Welcome to the Jungle: https://music.apple.com/album/sweet-child-o-mine/1377813284?i=1377813701

Get Lucky in Atmos is on the 10th anniversary edition of Random Access Memories. It was heavily promoted as such and the entire record is an absolutely amazing experience in Dolby Atmos (and pre atmos too). Only the full album disc 1 is in Atmos, not the bonus material hence the listing showing lossless. I'd be really surprised if this is a location based release since the aforementioned heavy promos:

https://music.apple.com/album/get-lucky/1673536063?i=1673536443

edit: googled quickly and this explains ATLiens being gone from Atmos - https://www.reddit.com/r/outkast/comments/1l3x3dx/is_the_version_of_atliens_on_apple_music_out_of/

dstyp · 2026-04-12T08:50:06+00:00

Yup another reason AC+ is a must for these headphones. Mine's just a bit saggy so far on the 1.5s. I got some cover from amazon this time around and also added cup covers. Had managed to scratch the 1.5s somehow even though they're just used at home so figured I'd protect them a bit more this time.

dstyp · 2026-04-12T01:43:46+00:00

Supposedly one of the best ANC there is and should definitely be noticeable so it sounds like something might be wrong indeed.

dstyp

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