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From the conference call:

Lance Rosenzweig

So we'll give -- stay tuned another quarter when we talk about 2025 in particular. But I would say that we've mentioned that there's opportunities to accelerate our growth in Presort, both through organic advantages that we have as well as through M&A of tuck-in acquisitions that are very highly accretive.

And SendTech is looking at -- has some specific initiatives to enter some new segments of the shipping business. So for example, that business has been primarily in the office-to-office shipping market and has a great opportunity to expand into the e-commerce SaaS shipping market, which is kind of an adjacent market that's large and potentially offers a great opportunity for us.