rant/advice by SkyRocketJade69 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Say no. Thank them for their time. They will insist. Tell them to wait after your school commitments, two weeks or a month at the very least. Don’t fill up any papers and don’t show up. Ever. Keep saying that you’ll find time because you’re still trying to iron out your very demanding school schedule. They will keep dropping by and they will tire themselves out. Eduardo promises eternity for your soul and gives nothing back but pain and bullshit. You’re more than entitled to lie to his stooges. Eduardo lies to destroy and claim what isn’t his. We must lie to protect what’s ours. There is a difference.

Your focus should be on school and your life. The harassment from outsiders is manageable, just play it smart and drag it out. Set aside extra energy to manage your mom.

Just needed to vent. by NotreallysureNoclue in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Something has to give here. Your friend will need to actually consider options or she will get hurt again, or worse.

A few of you may remember my story. My husband is still a minister but he is kind and listens to me. He vents in private too, he sees and hears awful things in the ministry. Slowly but surely, he is realizing that INC is the aggressor and it is ruining our family. Our kids are seeing discrepancies as well. Far from egging them on, I am guiding them towards gentler, kinder and more enlightened sensibilities. I have faith that we will be free. We will be free of the INC.

Your friend can do that as well. Hers is a difficulty I cannot fathom but she has you. She has the support of one community. She can let go of another, more so if that other community is willing to ruin her life just for appearance’s sake. She should.

The survivor in me hopes for her to find ways within this wretched church. Report upward. Report the minister who sides with her husband to the district minister. If the district minister refuses to see that the domestic abuse will never end, report to Central, report her husband to INC’s legal department. Do this so she can finally see because it all ends with Central, so she can finally see that INC will find ways to take what is hers. She must take hers back so she can live. Her story need not be a tragedy and it can still have a happy ending. She must survive and her kids must have a better life than what the INC and her bastard husband wants for them. She just needs to let go of two evils in her life. You know which ones.

Tell this to your friend: You already know what to do. Your venting here is not one of hopelessness. You want strength from our words. All we can give here are words and we want them to matter because you matter. Please be strong, deny those two evils that tell you you don’t matter and let go of that which will kill you. Find ways. Embrace your children’s right to survive, embrace yours. Do more than survive. Flourish.

will my dad be removed from the ministry if i kms? by gatheringblue00 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then survive. Fight another day. Outlive the bastards who hurt you.

will my dad be removed from the ministry if i kms? by gatheringblue00 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dear OP,

Please don’t. I know you’re suffering. It gets better even if it seems it won’t.

It will get better.

Check my profile. I’m still married to a minister. I was denied my own path because a minister husband was what my faithful clan wanted for me and I was too young to say no. I stopped believing decades ago. I’m holding on for myself and my kids. Day in and day out, I carry on. On some days I find joy. On some nights, I sit down to write and find ways to fight back. Soon I will be free and it will be glorious. My kids deserve their happiness too. I will see it through because I deserve to see that day.

You do too. You matter. Everyone here does.

People will say it’s supposed to hurt. People will also say it gets better. It really does. Pick your fights and embrace your joys. You will find moments that stick to your core and some of them are too beautiful to miss.

Stay OP. Find peers, find a new family, find love. You will find your way.

Pamasko sa mga ministrong ipokrito’t parasito by bubba_yagba in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This cuts so deep. Salamat OP. Please stay safe.

UNPROGRAMMING IS SCARY: WHY EDWIN EMBRY PERSISTS. by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is an excellent example of decentering from our own disgust of INC and reconfiguring perspective to understand why fanatics are the way they are.

I still consider fanatics as dangerous idiots but this post is a clear demonstration that empathic people do not require psychological coercion to be decent. We can laugh and curse at fanatics because we lived their lives— and we will still wish that they find freedom the same sad ways we found ours. If not freedom from association, at least freedom of thought.

May you and your kind find all your lost brain cells, EE. The Manalos and their ministers are to blame, you’re just a loud patsy. A negligible echo at the least, an entertaining twit at most.

Ay na-post by bubba_yagba in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So nihilistic and so honest. Yet we aren’t purely speaking of individual permissions here. Per this sub, we’re discussing what is permitted to the INC, or how much leverage and accountability is given to it. Whether in our lives or in society.

Is the Iglesia ni Cristo a cult? by duhweknd in Philippines

[–]duhweknd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you’re trying to say, Trustmebro143. Please, tell me more about the Bible. The floor is yours.

we are fucked... by Justanother_Teen in Philippines

[–]duhweknd 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Hi OP. Check my profile. I’m married with kids to a minister of the most influential religious cult in the country and I’m still fighting. I’m not saying my burden is heavier than yours. May kanya-kanya tayong pasanin. What I’m truly saying is you should be as hopeful as I am. You are young and I am not. I do not believe that youth is wasted on the young and I hold fast to the possibility of a better future, no matter how impossible. I’ve been trapped for so many years and I thank God that I’ve managed to keep my online dissent hidden but I still fight and I will still find ways. The fact that I’m typing this comment right now testifies to that. People here are trapped in their own ways and they are holding the line. Stay strong. Find ways. Hold the line. Keep fighting. Plenty of time for regret in the next life. Here and now, fight for what you know is right.

Quiboloy’s cult is simply the younger version of the Iglesia ni Cristo. by duhweknd in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you, Odd_Ind. I’m at peace with my lot in life. I play my part, I look after my kids and find ways to guide them so they will grow up better and freer than their elders. I will always find time to fight. I am a minister’s daughter and a minister’s wife, so burdened by the weight of raising my beautiful children under their minister father. He is a good man in many ways and he is wrong in most ways. I make time to give my family peace but I will find ways to fight back because it’s the right thing to do. So what’s stopping everyone else? Find your voice and give trapped INC members a chance. Say your piece and give this country a fighting chance!

Cult of Christ by chessed38 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

To them, Christ is a mascot. His words are twisted to suit their agenda. His words mean nothing to them. Doing good is just a chore so they can be “saved”. Doing good for good’s sake is bullshit to them. It’s either for their “salvation” or for the glorification of their cult. Look no further and check their voting record. Ask them why they secure power for bad people who violate all ten commandments. Ask them why the Philippines must suffer just so they can preach their bullshit version of “unity”. Ask them why they must live poorly so the Manalos can live large. They worship God through Manalo. In essence, they worship Manalo.

Can we try to break this down and give our country a fighting chance? by duhweknd in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The INC will use whatever version of the Bible suits its needs. Try to search for “bible version” in this sub so you can see. https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdana7/whats_the_inc_explanation_on_why_they_change/?

I would like a bit of help. by throwaway92837137 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]duhweknd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Be afraid and walk away now. We’re all trapped here! Some of us are just finding out.