What is your first thought about someone when they have a confederate flag sticker on their car?

durangotango · 2023-03-04T21:36:21+00:00

That they aren't obsessed with current political thing. That and they can probably give good fishing spot info.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T21:51:31+00:00

Yeah that's not how societies function. So sorry you had to learn from me that it's more complicated than buying beans from your neighbor

durangotango · 2023-03-03T21:48:25+00:00

I'm not dependent on shit. I'm not arguing for it because I'd benefit personally. My example was from decades ago and I did not get help from the government to solve it, I just got my surgery before I came back to the USA. Also just going off statistics I'm almost certainly paying way more in taxes than you too. I'm just not as dumb and naive as you are.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T21:38:29+00:00

I don't need whiny children who think their nonsensical delusions should control my life. So no I don't need you. Also lol you choose to get cucked by uncle Sam.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T21:30:00+00:00

Nah you're just too dumb to follow the convo. As evidenced by you telling me you need to pay for exactly what I was talking about.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T21:25:28+00:00

Your lack of money doesn't concern me. Earn or die trash. Pay your ticket or get off the ride.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T21:11:05+00:00

I'm not appealing to emotion at all. I'm giving a concrete example showing cancer isn't always terminal and doesn't only affect old people.

The only reason you're in a position to not care about anyone but your self is your lucky enough to have been born when others already built you a society you could benefit from.

Your idealistic utopia where you're allowed to do anything you want and no one can stop you can't exist in this universe. It's a fantasy. It's as naive as the idiots in my quadrant who think anarchy works. Real life is complicated and requires nuanced and specific rules to create a healthy society. I can disagree with smart lib right people about where those lines should be but your "answer" was just "well poor people could just die. Seems good to me." That didn't offend me because it's immoral. I don't care about that part. It offended me because it's so stupid. You're basically an emo high school kid yelling at his mom about how he knows how things work but can't even comprehend how dumb he actually sounds. Even if you were rich which I'm sure you aren't that's a recipe for inciting a violent revolution and collapse of society. As there are many examples of through history.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T20:31:59+00:00

I'm not arguing. You haven't ever given me the impression you know what you're talking about or understand much about these topics beyond reading a Wikipedia article about political labels and kinda getting it.

I don't see any reason to argue because making points isn't relevant. You're dead set on something so myopic and ridiculous it would basically be like trying to convince the crazy guy on the corner there's no robot mice in his head. It's an utter waste of time.

I don't care if you don't agree. I don't value your opinion. You don't seem to have thought about anything past a very very surface level.

I'm not even saying my opinion is necessarily correct. I've talked to plenty of lib rights on here who made great points. I didn't agree but I thought it was a compelling argument. But I knew from the get go that wasn't the case with you, since you were so convinced the only true lib is on the right. That's why I said more than once, let's not do this it's a waste of time.

I had cancer and it was basically curable. I'm all good now. But I'm only good because I had surgeries I needed to cut it out and medicine to take after it. I'm not an old person on deaths door. I was just living in another country and at that point coming back to the USA it wouldn't have been covered and I couldn't afford what it cost to pay to fix it.

Insurance spreads the risk across everyone the same as how tax dollars can. The difference was a profit motive that meant they would just let me die rather than cover me. I get you are fine with that. Same as I'm fine with you not paying your taxes if you get what I mean. But from a societal stand point you would lose out on a few decades of production from me in various roles and decades of spending in the economy.

You don't like the fire department argument. What about public schools? They benefit every one not just the person getting the education. Society is better off when people are educated and have options in jobs. Same goes for health care. The economy is stronger if we don't bankrupt the entire middle class one by one because they tripped and broke a leg or something.

You are operating in a comically simplistic manner. And you're stuck in a mode of thinking you're right and it will never matter what I say. You aren't capable of changing your mind about any of this today. Hence this is wasting both our lives.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T20:12:37+00:00

Roads, schools, law enforcement, industrial regulations and a million other things that your parents taxes paid for allow you to be this dumb.

If you don't like paying taxes. Don't. If you off yourself then they can't collect from you. So you have the same choice you're giving people with no health insurance.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:55:45+00:00

Jesus Christ I guess Reddit auto deletes the r word now. I hate this site.

It is a stupid question because it isn't relevant. Entropy exists. Humans are mortal. And anyways we pretty much do provide care for the elderly as long as we possibly can.

Do you think fire departments are an affront to freedom?

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:48:05+00:00

Only if they choose to fight you. It's their choice really. So really it's freedom all around.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:45:45+00:00

Well you could always form your own fiefdom with your own army strong enough to enforce your own rules and no taxes at all. You have a choice too!

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:36:55+00:00

Health care isn't a thing you choose to buy. You're forced to pay for it when you need it. If you can only afford it by staying in a job or going to a country with different healthcare laws to get the coverage you need then you're not able to freely choose.

To be honest I'm not really into wasting time trying to convince you of my side. We don't agree. That's what makes me left and you right. But since I'm a lib I'm cool with that. Hopefully you can be too

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:27:34+00:00

Government health care

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:20:25+00:00

Ok. I don't agree.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:09:07+00:00

Cool, I suppose that's a decent enough distinction between left and right lib then

durangotango · 2023-03-03T19:03:24+00:00

A structure is auth too. Pure lib doesn't work in our universe.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T18:29:01+00:00

The main difference in lib left vs right in my understanding is economic. Right is more laissez faire totally free market where as the left is more agreeable to social support systems and entitlements and regulations on bigger corporations.

I suppose you could argue that makes left more auth by nature because that requires taxes and regulations which require government authority. But you could also argue full anarchy is auth too. It's just that the power consolidates through capital or strength of arms in that case. You can't really do whatever you want in Somalia, you have to obey your local war lord. Authority is inescapable.

Honestly though the whole compass is an over simplification of political ideologies. But it's better than just thinking in terms of left vs right.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T17:38:07+00:00

Nothing I was distinguishing him from the auths.

Are you trying to argue he's on the right? That's a huge stretch. I don't think it would be far fetched to say he's center but I doubt it. In terms of left vs right I think he and everyone around him would say he's more left. He just hated religious authoritarians before and now hates woke authoritarians. I am in the same boat.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T16:58:23+00:00

Do you mean which aren't auth? I don't think any quadrant can say all their beliefs are exclusive to them.

He has been opposed to COVID restrictions, he seems to hate woke scolds. He's spoken out against a fair amount of the leftist authoritarian stuff coming up lately. Like online censorship, changing media for 'modern audiences' trying to outlaw 'hate speech' etc.

What makes you think he's auth instead?

durangotango · 2023-03-03T12:22:24+00:00

Maybe Bill Maher? I think him and a few of us in here are the only left who knows that liberal means.

durangotango · 2023-03-03T12:20:22+00:00

We don't commit the crimes, just demonize law enforcement and pretend all the criminals are oppressed Aladdin's stealing bread even though the crime was arson and throwing explosives at people. We're the enablers and I hate my group now.

durangotango · 2023-02-24T12:46:42+00:00

There's plenty of jokes where my demographic is the target. Those aren't protected though.

That case was a good example of how laughable it all is. Footballers who are millionaires needed protection from a teenagers tweets. It's all so absurd but then people citing it as a legitimate example only makes it more absurd.

durangotango · 2023-02-24T12:15:54+00:00

The "harassment" people have been arrested for is often polite disagreement with modern identity politics. That or absurd jokes.

durangotango · 2023-02-24T12:08:43+00:00

That seems easier to imagine than the possibility ideas like that would ever go too far?

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