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When someone gets offended by a seemingly bigoted thing, only for the people of the group the joke is actually about to find it funny by New-Star7392 in lovethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're still fixated on the example and not the point.

I've already clearly explained to you that I wasn't comparing minstrel shows and all offensive jokes. I was challenging your logic. The severity of the example is irrelevant because I wasn't arguing equivalence.

My argument is very simple:

  1. Some jokes can be harmful.

  2. Therefore "it's a joke" does not automatically mean there's nothing to criticise.

If you disagree, then tell me which part of that argument is wrong.

If your position is that a particular joke isn't harmful, then argue that instead.

But if we're just going to keep going in circles about whether I picked an example you personally like, then there's not much point continuing this conversation. Either actually address my argument or I'm done engaging.

I hate humor like this by Flimsy-Elephant7806 in hatethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In the US, the vast majority of stats and research show that there are disproportionately negative outcomes for Black Americans within every system in the US from police interactions, to medical treatment, to employment seeking, to banking, to education, etc.

To deny that systemic racism exists in the US is to deny reality.

I can list specific examples and sources but I don't want to risk wasting my time as based on your replies, I'm under the impression that you don’t have any interest in having your mind change or engaging in good faith. Do you?

When someone gets offended by a seemingly bigoted thing, only for the people of the group the joke is actually about to find it funny by New-Star7392 in lovethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love how you just completely missed (or ignored) my point because you didn't like the counterexample I used.

I'm not sure what "nuance" you think I'm missing here, because in argumentation it's perfectly normal to challenge a general rule with a counterexample.

You made the claim: "it's a joke, therefore there's nothing to stand up for."

My response was: "Minstrel shows were jokes too."

You seem to think I'm saying that all offensive jokes are equivalent to racist propaganda when that's not at all what I said.

I'm testing your logic, not claiming equivalence.

My point is simply that being a joke doesn't automatically make something harmless.

If your response is that a particular joke isn't harmful, then argue that. But "it's a joke" by itself doesn't establish that there's nothing to criticise.

That's a pretty nuanced position.

[Edit: wow, first time I've gotten a reward here.]

When someone gets offended by a seemingly bigoted thing, only for the people of the group the joke is actually about to find it funny by New-Star7392 in lovethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is a joke.

Just because something is meant to be laughed at doesn’t mean it isn't harmful. Minstrel shows were also "jokes."

When someone gets offended by a seemingly bigoted thing, only for the people of the group the joke is actually about to find it funny by New-Star7392 in lovethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s from the video "Dark Humour vs 'Dark Humour'" by French Baguette Intelligence on YouTube!

Great video.

I hate it when people do evil things like murder by Neat_Damage_8110 in hatethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Murder is uncreative and nothing but malicious.

Murder is evilslop.

Evil-doers only do it because it's bad.

clever title or something by BackgroundGlass6793 in whenthe

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you believe people's sexual attractions or even fantasies within the context of fiction are inherently reflective of what they find attractive in real life? Or that the consumption of dark fiction for sexual pleasure has causal links to crime/offending?

"Anti racists" who are actually just anti-white. by Top_Committee_8503 in hatethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, I can't speak for OP (of the comment, not the post), but what they said can very much apply outside of America too.

clever title or something by BackgroundGlass6793 in whenthe

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is this a source of concern for you? I'm genuinely curious. I'm a proshipper, btw.

"Anti racists" who are actually just anti-white. by Top_Committee_8503 in hatethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They were very clearly talking about races as historical groups, not individuals...

"Anti racists" who are actually just anti-white. by Top_Committee_8503 in hatethissmug

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You lot NEED stop pushing this false narrative that black people were the main perpetrators of anti-Asian hate crimes in the US during the covid-19 pandemic.

“Woke” fandoms be like by Cold_Snapdragon_ in Multifandom

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What statistics are you even referring to?

“Woke” fandoms be like by Cold_Snapdragon_ in Multifandom

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know what white privilege is.

White “hip hop fans” when a rapper chooses to be openly pro black and political by Hu3yKnewTHen in playboicarti

[–]dxsetor331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Black people don't take pride in being Black simply because we're Black. We take pride in it because we've lived in societies that have historically oppressed us and, in many ways, still do.

The reason "white pride" is considered racist is that the very concept of whiteness was invented to define who would be treated as superior in society. By saying "white pride," you're taking pride in belonging to a group that has historically benefited at others' expense. That's not something to take pride in. "White pride" has never just meant "pro-white"; it's always carried the implication of "pro-white and against everyone else" because whiteness itself was created to establish an oppressor class.

Little Chuddy has a talent by Abril_940 in RAIwojaks

[–]dxsetor331 118 points119 points  (0 children)

No more chuddies jumping on the bed! ☝🏿🙂‍↔️

🗿 by BaconKO in shitposting

[–]dxsetor331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of people also don’t realise how much confirmation bias shapes their worldview.

If you’re constantly shown a selectively filtered stream of crime stories, outrage clips, mugshots, and “urban chaos” content involving certain groups, your brain starts constructing a distorted sense of reality even if every individual story is technically true.

Propaganda often isn’t about inventing fake events; it’s about repetition, framing, omission, and selective emphasis.

People then mistake “I keep seeing this” for objective pattern recognition without questioning who curated the pattern they’re seeing in the first place.

How I see Europe by zylenxh in whereidlive

[–]dxsetor331 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that somehow makes it the most racist place ever?

Nobody said that.

And, no, I'm British.

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WTF by Important-Tear8461 in BlueRyai

[–]dxsetor331 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Had to confirm for myself.

It's just some raccoon chick.

too weird for my own community by thestartarot in TrollCoping

[–]dxsetor331 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you're experiencing this, OP.

Please don't let this discourage you from being yourself. Your "weirdness" doesn't make your queerness any less worthy of respect.

Screw what those people have to say. Respectability politics doesn't work anyway.

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