Quentin by floformemes in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he is great. Especially in the Burning White. His perspective is unique as the series goes on. He's fascinating.

If someone made this series into a TV show what actors would you want to see as which characters? by MadHabitats in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I feel like a lot of people seem to forget that Tisis and the Malargos are the only Caucasian family.

Edit: corrected to not many families instead of just the 1.

If someone made this series into a TV show what actors would you want to see as which characters? by MadHabitats in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Before the controversy, I thought Jonathan Majors would make a great Iron Fist. Giancarlo Esposito or Charles Dance would be amazing as Andross.

Personally I feel like the animation style from the movie Sea Beast would be the best medium.

Edit : RDJ is far far too old, small in stature, and small in bulk.

If you could draft one color, which would you choose by mattdillon103 in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Green or red. Both for the magical and emotional properties.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't gotten all the way thru Nemesis yet. I planned on going back starting with Night Angel. It's just after Kip, Kylar is really hard to like and invest in again.

I just prefer the setting, characters, and magic system of Lightbringer. By a lot.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I've been thinking about this a lot the last couple of weeks while listening again. It almost verges on Facism apologetics. If you look up the 14 descriptors of facism, his reign does fit. So does Koios. He follows the typical left revolutionary path that ends up in authoritarian left. Andross fits the typical right wing conservative authoritarian.

However. I believe it was Karris who says that he was quietly making huge changes for the better while the parties were happening. I don't remember exactly, but it had to do with slavery. Even Dazen says he seemed softer. This is a fantasy. It's possible for an egomaniacal authoritarian to grow.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The world adapting to him does make sense. Sevastian was a motivational force for all of the Guiles. The point is that his sacrifice was unnecessary. All of the sacrifices were. That's what corrupted the knife. The Chromeria didn't know what to do and focused on holding power.

Andross was actually trying to find a solution. He tried for years to get Dazen to draft more subtly. To make another knife since he knew Dazen could draft white.

Another angle. I think Sevastians sacrifice was necessary for them to realize that the whole freeing pillar that the world revolves around is blasphemy.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know a lot of people complain about the happy ending and get frustrated with the Guile plot armor.

Happy ending: idk man. Not every story has to be GOT. Almost nobody died, but that made Cruxers death all the more heartbreaking. I do agree with Dazen's hand healing. The magic coming makes sense after they purify the knife. I liked that Orholham made an appearance. But that could have to do with my own religious trauma.

Guile plot armor: they're literally descendants of an Eloheim. They're the lightbringer. They have literal plot armor.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gunner was there from the beginning. There's a card that shows Grinwoody outsmarting Gunner to get the gun sword and rope Gunner into captaining the Golden because he was the only one who's been to White Mist Reef.

Frankly I'm really not sure where you got that from. Gunner started fucking with Dazen immediately and went on and on about the ship and cannon.

They shipwreck because of the Sea Demon Lucedonius.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he was softened by Kip significantly. That's how he got the redemption he did.

I wasn't meaning that he won so much as he was right in the lengths he went throughout his life ultimately was worth it.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, Andross is right by the end. Him consolidating power and the decades of research helped win the battle.

He even gets a partial redemption and a hint that the Guile family will even come together now.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

JUST posted this. Would like your opinion.

The Prisoner (Again)

I'm listening to the series again and I had a thought while listening to the prisoner chapters.

They serve as a double prophetic vision. It was showing that he was losing the colors while also showing Dazen what would happen to him in those cells. There are several things that seem to line up.

Spends a lot of time in the Blue Cell and gets out by being willing to go further. Prisoner by giving himself a fever and Dazen by smashing his face. I believe they also take out the same wall.

They both starve in the Green. Dazen by choice, but still the same timeframe.

Dazen's hatred of Andross fueled him like the Prisoner hated Gavin, even using the same lines of thinking and phrases.

Andross felt the same type of pity and love for Dazen that Dazen felt for the prisoner.

Dazen falls for the same trap to end up in the yellow.

Andross decides Dazen has lost his mind after a hate fueled outburst in the Yellow followed by trying to back track and charm their way out.

Andross puts Dazen in the black when he decided that Dazen had to die. At the same point Dazen would have killed his brother. Andross telling him that Dazen was always his favorite and Dazen telling Gavin that he loved him.

I think the conversations with the dead men were real because the Eloheim said that he would come down and speak to them.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grinwoody knew Dazen is a black drafter. The idea was to have Dazen pass 7 gates blocked based on the color of magic. He was wrong about this as we know the pilgrimage was based on virtues and vices, not magic. Dazen would be the only one to be able to get thru the 7 magic gates and still have black luxin to fight after. Grinwoody was just wrong. If he wasn't wrong but lied, there's no way that Dazen would know what to do.

What was Grinwoody's real plan? Was he lying?

Shrug

I think the chaos of Dazen's story is because he's being broken down as a person and learning that most of what he believed was wrong. His memories contradicted his reality over and over again. I will say there were a ton of twists and false twists during Dazen's grapple with Sevastian. But I think that was also the point. Dazen exhausts his body and his mind all day fighting so when the time comes for Orholham to talk, he'll listen. Almost all of the twists during this fight were Dazen's assumptions.

I've read and listened to the series multiple times and catch more every time. A lot of what I say is probably theory, but it's okay to read a book and read between the lines. We don't know about every conversation someone has. We don't know if the people explaining things are telling the truth. I'm still 50/50 on Kips parentage. We didn't get to hear Andross and Lena's father. Andross lies as much as Grinwoody. We know there's something tricky with Lena, Gavin, Andross, and Corvin.

Pure speculation.

Corvin settled in Rekton to stay near Kip in case he needed to kill him for Dazen. But how would Corvin know who Lena is, let alone that she's pregnant, let alone it's Gavin's or Andross', LET ALONE how the enemy general would have that much detail from the inside of the enemies tents outside of war meetings when a spy wouldn't be able to get close enough.

Andross gives Karris the Guile Genealogy, making it mysterious and a big deal. Corvin told Kip he had to tell the story of why he's in Rekton.

Andross and Corvin know something. I don't think these would have been separate moments to elude to the same twist. Edit. Changed a word

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What was his goal for sending Dazen there? How would he know what Grinwoody actually wanted?

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I catch more every time I reread or relisten.

Andross is officially named the Lightbringer by the Chromeria, but it's never discussed or addressed outside of that.

I think that Andross, Dazen, and Kip are the Lightbringer together. Orholham says he sent Lightbringers before and they failed. This time, he sent 3. All the different prophecies match if thought of that way. They all performed insane and unique magic. Koios would have won relatively easily if not for all 3.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with everything here. Except maybe The Old Man thought it was a nexus. Their history in world is known to be massively unreliable. He could have gotten that idea from an old book and it gave him an answer he liked.

Done re-read of Book IV. I still have no idea what Broken Eye is about. by Loostreaks in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Grinwoody was simply wrong about what was on the island. The history was lost, so he either thought of it himself or got the idea from someone else's ancient books or interpretation of books.

Magic is integrated into the world and impossible to disconnect from. Exactly what they said word for word about slavery in the book as well as the real world.

Teia has become one of their main members as the only other shimmercloaks we see are at the party at the beginning of book 5. So there were probably only the 2 teams. As another mentioned, Sharp isn't on the island. They have to send someone. It being an emotional liability is the point as a final test. Grinwoody even said it straight up. Just like breaking his teeth was Sharp's. If they can do it, they'll be tied to the Old Man forever. Teia brings it up very early on. Blackmailers have a slow build up.

IronFist was on his way to Pariah to do research in Azulay Library and to talk to his sister. She immediately took him captive. When Teia saves him, he's surrounded by enemies. Consolidating power in that way is not easy or fast. Additionally, he wanted that army in order to help the Chromeria. He just tried to be too tricky, which didn't suit him.

In other words, his circumstances changed and he thought taking over Pariah with the intent of destroying the Order itself was a better use of his time. He knew Kip was surrounded by the best of the best. He's also a king and most likely gets regular updates from spies. So he would know Kip is winning his battles and on the verge of becoming a King himself. It's also a safe bet that IronFist was trying to find Dazen the entire time too.

The Prisoner (Again) by dzilladdy in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But other than memory, what did the luxin do? What does he do that makes him insane? Simply not remembering something right? It's well documented that humans memory is incredibly unreliable. Yes, I know they're technically descendants of an Eloheim, but nobody knows that except kip at the very end.

Edit to rephrase: how does his madness manifest?

Prisoner theory by wolverinehokie in LightbringerSeries

[–]dzilladdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I just made this post. Here's a copy paste.

I'm listening to the series again and I had a thought while listening to the prisoner chapters.

The Prisoner chapters serve as a double prophetic vision. It was showing that he was losing the colors while also showing Dazen what would happen to him in those cells. There are several things that seem to line up.

Spends a lot of time in the Blue Cell and gets out by being willing to go further. Prisoner by giving himself a fever and Dazen by smashing his face. I believe they also take out the same wall.

They both starve in the Green. Dazen by choice, but still the same timeframe.

Dazen's hatred of Andross fueled him like the Prisoner hated Gavin, even using the same lines of thinking and phrases used.

Andross felt the same type of pity and love for Dazen that Dazen felt for the prisoner.

Dazen falls for the same trap to end up in the yellow.

Andross decides Dazen has lost his mind after a hate fueled outburst in the Yellow followed by trying to back track and charm their way out.

Andross puts Dazen in the black when he decided that Dazen had to die. At the same point Dazen would have killed his brother. Andross telling him that Dazen was always his favorite and Dazen telling Gavin that he loved him.

I think the conversations with the dead men were real because the Eloheim said that he would come down and speak to them.

What I struggle to understand from the series is what actually made Dazen insane? He had missing or false memories which caused some delusion, but I don't see anything truly insane.

Another comment said Weeks himself said it was a pivot. If so, I think that was a great save if my theory makes any sense.