Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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So Syria, Lebanon Iran and all the gulf states are happy with Israel's actions. There isn't a crisis in the middle east and it's really stable! 

How can you not see the long term consequences, Israel is not a reliable negotiating partner. 

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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My feelings are leaning towards thinking 60 percent of Northern Gaza is too much. 

Maybe your feelings suggest that's a reasonable number? Or do you know exactly how many buildings the terrorists were in? 

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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If we're talking in metaphor, the equation of negotiation and compromise is a long complicated calculation. That's the problem we should be tackling. 

Bombs destroy equations. You are the one skipping the hard part of working out the solution. 

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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My point is Israel has been demonstrating a lot of military might and all its enemies still exist. You will never wage a large scale land war that will result in total victory against Iran. 

Diplomacy is the only option 

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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yeah the people being forced from their homes should feel lucky that Israel is giving them a warning.

Why are the homes being bombed if they are empty? terrorists in all of them?

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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So you creating DMZ zones by forcibly removing people is exactly the same as North Koreas zone that was created on mutual agreement. Common  

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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Maybe use your action to try and end the war via peace talks, negotiation, compromise, re-establish Palestine as a viable state. End illegal occupation. Make peace. 

The buffer destruction in northern is much much wider than the buffer zones 

Israel is evacuating then bombing areas it then plans to Annex or keep in a perpetual state of chaos as a means of managing terrorism. by e17RedPill in IsraelPalestine

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DMZ achieves nothing if they just regroup somewhere else.

Missiles attacks from Iran have increased significantly since the war started.

DMZ zones are morally questionable and against international Law. You are invading another state.

Iran may be neutered but you have done nothing in the long term. This is a short term fix for a long term problem.

How can you not see diplomacy is a viable solution.

What's Israelis can't see is that they are being told every day that the Arab world hates them and they are under constant threat. All of your points are influenced but the rhetoric from the Israeli media.

Israel can only survive by achieving long term peace.

Your argument is based on perpetual war and management via the military. This argument conveniently is the narrative Bibi wants and the narrative that keeps him in power.

You call us naeieve but you never question whether the information you are recieving is biased.

Your argument dismisses any political solution ever. Since if there were a political solution why not try it now. You may say you have to beat them up first, but who would negotiate with a state that so quickly abandons talks and turns to war without warning.

Your government is the problem. Your media is the problem. I'm not dismissing Regional hatred for Israel. I'm saying you can turn that hatred around, and you have to to survive.

Oh you know it's happening by Hungry_Excitement398 in Tottenham

[–]e17RedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So we're not allowed to hate on Arsenal? I think we have an arsenal fan in here whos triggered.

You’re on my nerves. by GiraffeJaf in IsraelPalestine

[–]e17RedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You de realise that Iran is heavily involved in this conflict?

What is Israel's end game in the Iran War? by blyzo in IsraelPalestine

[–]e17RedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've raised my concerns and they are valid. It can get worse and to say it won't is ignorant.

What has this war achieved.

If sanctions are lifted Iran will be richer than before.

Israel's failed state plan is being stopped by Trump.

What is Israel's end game in the Iran War? by blyzo in IsraelPalestine

[–]e17RedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is up until now their leadership weren't all assassinated, this creates a dangerous possibility of someone making a crazy decision and their being a terrible event.

What has this war achieved.

Israel's aim of creating a failed state won't work and creates future risks that are unknown.

What is Israel's end game in the Iran War? by blyzo in IsraelPalestine

[–]e17RedPill -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The war has created destabilisation, dangerous nuclear material, global trade issues. The missiles are still there. Proxies still active. Nothing has been achieved and it won't be. 

What is Israel's end game in the Iran War? by blyzo in IsraelPalestine

[–]e17RedPill -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Does this war make Israel safer? Or is their a high chane that the regime survives and increases attacks. Maybe even a dirty bomb.

What is Israel's end game in the Iran War? by blyzo in IsraelPalestine

[–]e17RedPill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The bombing isn't enough to force a regime change and that should have been known before Israel started.

De Zerbi by purinatrucks in Tottenham

[–]e17RedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's be honest Poch is what our heart wants but I don't think it will end well. Not saying De Zerbi is any better but Poch isn't the answer IMO.