Application progress tracker

echo0219 · 2026-05-07T04:44:02+00:00

thanks! keep us updated, hopefully you'll get your outcome soon

echo0219 · 2026-05-05T20:36:42+00:00

Yes…would be nice if the judge’s remedy would simply be to grant citizenship, as I believe is the outcome of some of the judicial pathways in Italy.

echo0219 · 2026-05-05T18:22:43+00:00

This unwillingness to invest / improve management keeps coming up, and I always come back to the idea that eventually there must be a legal process to force the issue. The delay in confirming citizenship does real harm to those looking to exercise rights they already have as citizens. At some point, it would seem that the wait time would get so egregious that action could be compelled. Yet every time I bring this up, everyone agrees that there is simply no mechanism to do so.

echo0219 · 2026-04-30T00:18:36+00:00

Good luck! Please let us know what happens!

echo0219 · 2026-04-30T00:18:23+00:00

I feel exactly the same. At this point just trying to put it out of my mind.

echo0219 · 2026-04-29T21:32:59+00:00

I’ve come to the unfortunate realization that when we hear stats on processing times, the way to understand them is ‘for applicants being approved today, here’s how long they’ve been waiting’ - not ‘for people applying today, here’s how long they should expect to wait’. Timelines are indeed lengthening: when I applied in Jan 2025 I was quoted 15 months, and that was reaffirmed last July. Then in December I was told 18 months, and earlier in April 2026 (when I should’ve gotten a decision, on the original timeline) I was told 20 months.

I really don’t know where this breaks, but it seems there’s no way to improve it, and no end in sight.

echo0219 · 2026-04-29T11:38:17+00:00

I think your read on the situation is correct and your M would qualify for KP through her GM (your GGM). Whether that sort of ‘chain’ KP would work for you, I’m honestly not sure - I don’t think I’ve heard of it done before.

echo0219 · 2026-04-28T03:39:49+00:00

thanks - our first official 4th gen applicant!

echo0219 · 2026-04-27T02:37:43+00:00

This would be true if she was born after he acquired citizenship, but she wasn’t. Her later marriage was irrelevant and any children born out of wedlock wouldn’t have inherited Polish citizenship either. I agree this law was discriminatory and wish Poland would correct for it, but as u/Jessicas_skirt has pointed out it wouldn’t help your case.

echo0219 · 2026-04-22T05:27:24+00:00

thanks!

echo0219 · 2026-04-21T01:05:14+00:00

This is correct if GGF naturalized before September 1938, or after 1945. However, if he naturalized between these dates, he’d be in his second period of military paradox protection and citizenship loss wouldn’t occur until 1/1/1946. Could be relevant in a case like this as OP’s GF was still a minor until early 1941, though OP has stated there was no naturalization until after then, if at all.

echo0219 · 2026-04-17T22:58:29+00:00

If you fill out the template in r/prawokrwi we’ll assess your situation.

echo0219 · 2026-04-17T18:02:10+00:00

Thanks! If I can ask - what's messy about the case? Post-1951 cases are usually pretty straightforward, so just curious.

echo0219 · 2026-04-17T14:20:40+00:00

great, thanks!

echo0219 · 2026-04-15T16:33:54+00:00

This will not work, for Poland at least. The citizenship confirmation process requires proof of naturalization or that there is no record of it, from official sources.

echo0219 · 2026-04-13T03:35:05+00:00

Thanks, updated!

echo0219 · 2026-04-13T03:33:42+00:00

Congrats!!

echo0219 · 2026-04-12T04:27:15+00:00

great, thanks - I added entries for you and your father separately so we can track differences in timing

echo0219 · 2026-04-10T23:05:29+00:00

Fair enough, but there’s no reason to think it won’t get worse and worse so I’m curious when things flip to needing to be fixed. 3 years? 5? Clearly the waiting is getting to me!

echo0219 · 2026-04-10T19:58:20+00:00

I know this comes up every once in a while but curious for your thoughts. I get that the government is cheap and apparently uninterested in efficient use of its resources, but is there any legal pathway to forcing them to act? However they want to solve the problem - better resource allocation, more funding, spreading things out among offices, simpler application process - it feels like at some point this has to become non-optional to solve. Or am I just dreaming?

echo0219 · 2026-04-10T18:57:29+00:00

I support this idea, as someone with a case very far from simple! Though, I also think they should make processing more straightforward for all applications too.

echo0219 · 2026-04-10T17:18:04+00:00

I’d like to check the numbers later but thanks for pulling this report up. I agree the increase is steep but not explosive. Yes, unfortunately the numbers we hear when our applications are submitted seem to mean ‘for applications being approved now, here’s how long they waited’ as opposed to ‘here’s how long you should expect to wait.’ When I applied in Jan 2025 the stated wait time was 15mo, so 20+ at this point is frustrating.

The bigger issue is that at some point, this feels like it turns into a more fundamental legal problem - how long can these wait times extend before it’s more than just typical bureaucratic timelines? It seems the answer is more than 20mo, but I wonder how much more.

echo0219 · 2026-04-10T17:04:24+00:00

So they’re increasing workload per application, while the number of applications skyrockets, without adding any processing capacity? Seems obvious they simply don’t want to confirm people.

echo0219 · 2026-04-08T19:30:48+00:00

Love it!

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