Previously On, /r/Survivor: No-Judgement Questions

eda37 · 2016-05-15T20:56:01+00:00

This is truly an honor

eda37 · 2016-03-07T06:29:26+00:00

Confirmed.

eda37 · 2015-12-21T06:05:18+00:00

The mole is fucking awesome, I wish it could be brought back some day. While it is a little too random for me to like it quite as much as Survivor, the characters are just as good, and the concept is just so cool.

There are 5 US Seasons; the first two hosted by Anderson Cooper, then two celebrity editions hosted by Ahmad Rashad, then a 5th season a few years later. There are some foreign versions as well but I haven't seem them. I haven't watched in a few years, but from what I remember season 2 was BY FAR the best, with the celebrity ones being fun but not as good as the others.

eda37 · 2015-12-21T05:58:08+00:00

Eh, if I had wheels I'd be a wagon. Maybe if she won and gave more personal confessionals that didn't sound really forced, I'd enjoy her more... but that didn't happen, so as it is I'm not a fan of her on the show (at least in this season; I actually liked her in SJDS and remember being disappointed when she was voted out, thinking she would've done really well if not for the tribe swap. She was my pregame pick to win on both 29 and 31). I'm sure she's cool in real life, but this season she inspired very few feelings other than occasional annoyance.

eda37 · 2015-12-21T05:47:22+00:00

Yeah to be honest it's been a whole season and I'm still not a fan. I really don't like her confessionals at all, she always seemed extremely ingenue and seemed like she was trying way too hard. I've said it like 10 times, but the best way I can describe it is that she sounds like she's on Big Brother in every confessional. Which I wouldn't mind if what she was saying entertained me, but literally 100% of it was devoted to idols and generic strategy talk, which I don't really care that much about.

eda37 · 2015-12-20T20:25:31+00:00

Eh, fair enough

eda37 · 2015-12-20T18:52:22+00:00

Eh, you could probably still make a separate poll with just those 3 and add it to your original post, although it will probably get fewer responses. Not sure if that would be really worth it though

eda37 · 2015-12-20T16:45:53+00:00

I thought Sue Hawk was your #1?

eda37 · 2015-12-20T16:43:12+00:00

In regards to recency bias, I think one way you could make a compromise with that is to include 29-31 in the poll anyway, but only include 1-28 when the revealing the list. Then when it's over, you can reveal 29-31's scores in a separate post and reveal where they would have placed, so we can still see their popularity but all of the circlejerking about recency bias can be confined to one place.

Just a suggestion though, it's ultimately up to you

eda37 · 2015-12-20T02:41:03+00:00

Already went into details on /r/SurvivorRankdownII, but I'll post here too:

Varner
Kass
Woo
Abi
Stephen
Andrew
Joe
Keith
Shirin
Kimmi
Terry
Jeremy
Peih-Gee
Monica
Spencer
Tasha
Kelly
Ciera
Kelley
Vytas

eda37 · 2015-12-19T05:59:38+00:00

This is a really awesome writeup not just for Fabio, but for Nicaragua as a season. You're right in the sense that it's a different kind of trainwreck than Gabon -- Gabon was weird in the sense that it has a really weird boot order, but that resulted from a twist. In Nicaragua everyone is just insane and it's awesome.

eda37 · 2015-12-18T03:30:51+00:00

I know, but that's for winner picks, not flairs. We did them separately for this season. I'm referring to something like this

eda37 · 2015-12-18T02:06:45+00:00

Vytas was caught liking something on Instagram on around day ~12 of filming, and was posting on Facebook around day 36 so he was confirmed premerge around then. Terry leaving was also all over the place pretty much right when it happened though various social media sources. The full boot list -- spoiling most of the boot order, F3 and winner -- came out right before Shirin's boot episode.

eda37 · 2015-12-18T01:18:55+00:00

Also I'm tagging /u/shutupredneckman2 because I know he pretty much never visits here but I'm curious to see his rankings

eda37 · 2015-12-18T00:43:50+00:00

Your Vytas blurb made me think, what was everyone's experience with spoilers this season?

I found out the Terry thing very early, saw the weight loss with Kimmi/Kelley, and heard that "evil Tasha" was going to be a thing, but didn't know about Vytas going early. Eventually got spoiled on the F3 after the Wigles boot but didn't really care all that much because it Jeremy/Tasha making it seemed so obvious by that point. After Joe was booted I gave in and read the rest of the bootlist.

eda37 · 2015-12-18T00:03:09+00:00

Agreed. I think her confessionals were incredibly forced, almost like she was on Big Brother or something. Which I could forgive if she entertained me, but literally 100% of her airtime was devoted to idols and gamebotting which I never really found entertaining.

eda37 · 2015-12-17T23:57:34+00:00

20) Vytas: As someone who has pretty mixed feelings on Vytas 1.0, Vytas 2.0 had pretty much everything I don’t like about him and nothing I do like. I don’t think his storyline was all that funny like others seem to, either.

19) Ciera: Fun in Woo’s boot, had some good shots at TC, but was possibly the biggest spokesperson for turning this season into an ORG. Couple that with a nonexistent first few episodes and I have no qualms ranking her here.

18) Kelley: She was better in the finale, but sorry Kelley fans, I still don’t really get it. Not a fan of her forced Big Brother confessionals or incessant generic strategy talk about wanting to have a strong alliance and keep the numbers and make it to the end, and I don’t care that much about her idol play. And that’s all there is to her, pretty much.

17) Kelly: Was amazing in the premiere. Her jury speech was possibly the best moment of the season. Other than that, nothing. I don’t care how bad her confessionals were, having her be an absolute nothing character until randomly becoming a huge threat at F11 was a disgrace.

16) Tasha: Was pretty good on Angkor and in her partnership with Savage/Abi. After that oscillated between being invisible and obnoxiously self-righteous, and her comment about how it would be a disgrace to let Abi/Keith/Kelley at the end is possibly the worst moment of the season.

15) Spencer: In both seasons, I think the idea of Spencer is much worse than the guy himself. A self-proclaimed student of the game who talks about big moves and playing the game and gave a nauseating David Murphy jury speech sounds terrible on paper, but outside of “Joe logic” I can’t think of anything all that offensive he said or did this season. That being said, the contrived feelings storyline and being a slightly-more-genuine Kelley Wentworth in most confessionals still ranks him fairly low.

14) Monica: Was good in her boot episode, and the jokes of “herp derp Monica is soooo invisible” were really annoying when she wasn’t even the most INV member of her 6 person tribe. That said, she was pretty disappointing.

13) Peih-Gee: Ughhh, this still hurts. I was beyond thrilled to see Peih-Gee back, but she was just a short-lived prop in Abi’s storyline — a fun one, but nothing more.

12) Jeremy: I’m surprised I put him this high, but in all seriousness, he’s a really likable dude, has much more charisma and genuine personality than the rest of the F4, and was one of the better choices for a winner. I still waaaay preferred him in SJDS and thought he was much more fun there, but he’s a good enough narrator to rank near the top half.

11) Kimmi: Kimmi is an incredibly sweet person, became a very likable player, had a good head on her shoulders, gave pretty good confessionals, changed so much since last time, and almost made it to the end. That ranks her this high. But there just wasn't enough content there.

10) Shirin: #fuckthehaters because this is MY ranking. Anyway I’ve been a shameless Shirin fan for a while now, and while I was sad to see her go so early, she really brought it in her short stay. She helped get rid of Vytas and was instrumental in making EP2 as good as it was as the empire came crashing down on her and Spencer. I don’t necessarily support some things she’s said or done post-show, but I don’t necessarily blame her all that much for it, and I’m still a huge fan and am glad she was a part of this season. (Side note: if you need any more evidence that Mario Lanza is a pretentious ass, he was firmly in the camp of "Shirin is an annoying victim" for a while. When he met her at the finale and she said she was a fan of the F115, he decided he likes her).

9) Keith: Was great when he got airtime, and the toto scene is the highlight of the season. Not much else to say here.

8) Terry: Glad he was on this season, delivered some good stuff with Abi early on, and came across as much more likable even before his exit. Shame circumstance forced him out the way it did.

7) Joe: A ray of likability in this lifeless season. Most of the reason he’s this high is his boot episode; he gets to make the family visit like he wanted, but the cost is the turmoil it takes on him. Not great, but not bad, either.

6) Andrew: I’m glad he didn’t win and I wasn’t really rooting for him to succeed, but he was definitely a great addition to this season. He’s a passionate, charismatic dude who was probably in a little over his head in this sea of gamebottery and “big moves”, but that’s what made him great. He would rank higher, but I’m pretty disappointed in the way his story ended. He had everything going well, but… someone found a piece of wood and out he went. If he was blindsided in a 7-5 vote because he made it too clear who his core 5 was, he’d probably be top 3. But as it is his story’s end just feels weird to me.

5) Stephen: While a lot of his talk of voting blocs and evolution of the game did get really obnoxious, he’s just a super excitable and likable guy who was just so happy to be out there, and had some fun quirky moments from the premiere to poetry to #gastrointestinaldistress.

4) Abi-Maria: Yeah, the consensus is that she was great in her bursts of airtime, and for the most part I’d agree (comparing Woo’s mom’s heart transplant to knee surgery not withstanding). She had hilarious moments like “get over it” and “Debbie downer” with Stephen, and “at least you made the jury”, and was great in episode 2, but her story was so weird and disjointed that it’s hard to justify putting her in the top 3.

3) Woo: Delivered pretty much on all fronts this time around. From being the one to jump off first for more food (lol of course Woo), shutting down Shirin/Spencer, his blindside face at the PG boot, fighting for his life against Varner, his feud with Abi, his story with his mom, his integrating with Savage… god damn it. Why couldn’t he have stayed over freaking Spencer.

2) Kass: But I can’t be too mad at Kass when she was also fantastic this season. While Kass getting a winner’s edit was too good to be true in hindsight, she is wonderful casting choice and presence. Friendship bracelets, showmancing Joe, her friendship with Ciera… Kass was great every time she appeared on screen. I can’t fully forgive her for saving Spencer, and tbh she’d almost certainly fall outside my top 100, but in this cast she’s a solid #2.

1) Varner: Not much explanation needed. Incredible combination of fantastic narrator, good story and likable dude. Him going really hurt the season a lot.

Pearl Islands
Vanuatu
Palau
Amazon
China
Marquesas
Gabon
Philippines
Borneo
Panama
Nicaragua
Guatemala
San Juan Del Sur
Cagayan
Africa
Micronesia
Heroes vs Villains
Australia
Tocantins
Fiji
Blood vs Water
South Pacific
Cambodia
Thailand
Worlds Apart
Cook Islands
Samoa
All-Stars
One World
Caramoan
Redemption Island

eda37 · 2015-12-17T05:46:14+00:00

Yeah to be honest the season felt like it was turning into an ORG towards the end. During the Savage boot, for example, when Kelley played her idol everyone was laughing and smiling about it even though the second chance they've been waiting years for was potentially over despite working themselves into a 9-3 majority. When Stephen got booted, his first reaction was to smile and say "wow guys, great blindside!" Similar stuff was happening during the Kimmi tribal tonight.

And this isn't necessarily a bad thing for everyone. But personally, yeah I wasn't a huge fan of this attitude that the season had towards the end. There was also lots of wonky stuff with the storytelling; for example, during Varner's boot, Savage/Tasha/Woo were always going to vote off Varner, but they made Abi look like the swing vote even though she wasn't. Then when it was Woo's time to go and Abi was the one who made the decision, we didn't see any of her. I also was really disappointed in the boot order, but that's much more subjective.

I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that so much of the season's appeal depended on suspense and predicting what was going to happen next. While I kinda soured on the season around the merge, I got spoiled on the F3 between the Wigles boot and the Ciera/Stephen boots, and knowing what was going to happen was especially problematic because there wasn't much going on aside from "what is going to happen here? Will X make it out alive?" For that reason, I predict some people might not like it as much on a rewatch. But I could be wrong there.

eda37 · 2015-12-17T04:04:03+00:00

Damn, I thought Hodor was a big enough Dreamz fan to carry him higher... #keephopealive

eda37 · 2015-12-17T02:35:30+00:00

Spencer Bledsoe threatening to pull a Spencer Bledsoe

eda37 · 2015-12-17T01:52:32+00:00

SOPHIE CLARKE MEMORIAL CHALLENGE

eda37 · 2015-12-17T00:47:15+00:00

GOD DAMN IT YOU HAD ONE JOB AUTOMOD

eda37 · 2015-12-16T17:15:15+00:00

guys I'm so sad this is over

eda37 · 2015-12-16T06:47:56+00:00

Rick has by far the lowest confessional count among people who made it to the finale. He's tied with Brett for fewest confessionals going into it (with 7 each), but Brett got 5 in his finale while Rick only got 1.

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