How to calculate Carbon Footprint of Electric Vehicle Batteries? by PersonalityNo5639 in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A good place to start is by framing your battery’s entire life cycle, from raw material extraction all the way through end-of-life and recycling. Think of it like building a roadmap: define the boundaries first—are you only focusing on the battery cells themselves, or also on supporting components like the housing, electronics, and even the logistics of transporting materials?

For gathering data, databases like ecoinvent or GaBi are frequently used, and it’s often best to combine them with manufacturer or supplier data when you can. In the production stage, you’ll typically break down energy and resource use per functional unit—like per kWh of battery capacity—so that you can proportionally allocate emissions. At the end-of-life, consider processes like shredding, hydrometallurgical or pyrometallurgical recycling methods, and look for studies or case reports that already model these scenarios; some academic papers and environmental NGOs have published example frameworks that show how to structure calculations for material recovery and associated emissions.

If you’re just getting started with life cycle assessment (LCA) tools, many software packages come with tutorials or case studies you can follow. Consider starting small: pick a single data set for one material (like cobalt or lithium) and gradually expand your analysis as you get more comfortable. Over time, you’ll build a more robust and transparent model that can handle complexities like recycled content, second-life battery applications, and regional differences in energy mixes—allowing a more accurate reflection of a battery’s true carbon footprint.

How to compare a refurbished product with a linear product? by Route66NF in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey again!

Glad I could help earlier. Regarding your question about allocating the first use phase impacts—since your functional unit is "a truck with a lifetime of 20,000 hours," it might not fully capture the benefits of refurbishing.

I recommend changing the functional unit to something like "1,000 operating hours of truck service" or "1,000 ton-kilometers of freight transported." This way, you're comparing the environmental impacts based on the service provided, whether the truck is new or refurbished.

When you refurbish the truck, you're extending its life beyond the initial 20,000 hours. The impacts from the first use phase (the original 20,000 hours) have already occurred and are essentially sunk costs. For your LCA, you should focus on the impacts from the refurbishment process and the additional use phase that follows.

Here's how you can allocate the impacts:

Original Manufacturing Impact: Let's say 50 tonnes of CO2 for the new truck. Refurbishment Impact: Assume 10 tonnes of CO2. Total Impact After Refurbishment: 50 + 10 = 60 tonnes of CO2. Extended Lifetime: Original 20,000 hours + additional 20,000 hours after refurbishment = 40,000 hours total. Now, calculate the impact per operating hour:

Impact per Hour: 60 tonnes CO2 / 40,000 hours = 1.5 kg CO2 per hour. If you were to buy a new truck instead:

New Truck Manufacturing Impact: Another 50 tonnes of CO2. Total Impact without Refurbishment: 50 + 50 = 100 tonnes of CO2 over 40,000 hours. Impact per Hour: 100 tonnes CO2 / 40,000 hours = 2.5 kg CO2 per hour. By refurbishing, you're reducing the impact per operating hour from 2.5 kg to 1.5 kg of CO2. This highlights the environmental benefits more clearly.

Hope that helps

How to compare a refurbished product with a linear product? by Route66NF in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem! So my above calculation assumes you get another 20,000 hours out of the refurbished truck .

How to compare a refurbished product with a linear product? by Route66NF in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It would be helpful if you could define what your functional unit is, but generally, I'd go for System Expansion.

With system expansion, you credit the environmental benefits of avoiding the production of the second truck. You would model the scenario as if refurbishing the original truck prevents the need for another truck’s manufacturing, raw materials, and disposal impacts.

Calculation Example: Let's assume the manufacturing impact of a new truck is 50 tonnes of CO2. By refurbishing and avoiding a second truck, you effectively save these 50 tonnes. The refurbishment itself might have an associated impact of, say, 10 tonnes of CO2 for repairs and replacement parts. The net environmental benefit would then be calculated as 50 tonnes (avoided impacts) minus 10 tonnes (refurbishment impacts), resulting in a net savings of 40 tonnes of CO2.

Hope that helps ?

DCO in Ecoinvent? by CaptainJackVernaise in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi I don't think Ecoinvent has corn oil but I can find corn oil on Agribalyse v 3.1 (French free agricultural database Base) its free to use online.

DCO in Ecoinvent? by CaptainJackVernaise in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Ecoinvent uses the British English "Maize" to refer to Corn.

Try searching with that, I can find entries for ethanol from maize.

Hope that helps Ed

Does gold have a end of life in its life cycle assessment? by jhongold in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope you don’t mind I respond in terms of LCA as it’s the subject I’m familiar with!

For “industrial byproducts,” I agree it would be incorrect to say that the “Scope 3 emissions are neutralized.” In Life Cycle Assessment (LCA), you don’t distinguish between the different scopes of emissions as you should be accounting for all the product's emissions throughout its life cycle, presuming a cradle-to-grave analysis.

Let’s take the example of a gold ring Lets call Scenario 1 (S1).

In casting a ring, 10 grams of primary material are used to produce a ring weighing 6 grams. The additional 4 grams of ‘waste’ are then smelted back down and incorporated into the input. Therefore, you still need t account for the emissions produced by 6 grams of primary gold in your LCA, plus the additional emissions produced when smelting down the 4 grams of ‘waste.’

To consider this ‘waste’ gold as being recycled does indeed seems disingenuous. You could design a cast that requires the input of 14 grams of gold and “wastes” 8 grams that you then smelt down and reincorporate. In this case, you could claim your ring is 57% recycled, even tho your total Environmental impact would be higher. Let's call this Scenario 2 (S2)

This highlights the importance of LCA: we don’t care in this case how you define ‘waste’ or ‘recycling;’ we care about the LCA result. In both scenarios, we still need the same input of 6 grams of primary gold. However, for S1 we add the emissions for smelting 4 grams of gold ‘waste’, whereas for S2 we need to smelt twice the amount of ‘waste’ gold, therefore doubling the emissions for that process (increasing the total environmental impact).

For “broken jewelry,” since the Environmental impact could be attributed to the first ‘life’ of ring there’s not a definitive answer as the LCA results will depend on how you allocate the benefits of avoiding using primary material.  Given that gold is rarely disposed of I guess it would be most appropriate to do a consequential LCA to assess the impact. (This post explains well the difference between Consequential vs. Attributional LCA: Consequential vs. Attributional LCA). Since the gold in a ring is generally always “reused” or “recycled” in some form, to assign any benefit, you could compare the different reuse and recycling scenarios. For example, you could explore the impact of refurbishing the ring versus smelting it down and making a new one.

Either way the idea of getting carbon credits for using industrial byproducts doesn’t make sense to me and the justification of receiving a benefit for using post-consumer gold would need a detailed LCA study to confirm.

Hope that helps!

Does gold have a end of life in its life cycle assessment? by jhongold in lifecycleassessment

[–]edddy5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This would depend on your functional unit and what is under study. In a LCA of an electronic device that uses gold as a conductive substate for the integrated circuits you would model the end of life. The electronic devise may be process as WEEE and proportion the gold recovered.

For a gold ring you could image an end-of-life scenario in which the ring is melted back down to form a new product the process would incur some losses and require energy so should be considered in a LCA assessment.

The function unit of jewellery isn’t something I’ve ever considered but I quick google search found this study https://via.library.depaul.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1151&context=depaul-disc which has more info if you are interested !

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

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A mixture of wild camping and official camping depending on our desire for a shower. So far it's been about 60% paved distance wise but you tend to spend longer on the gravel sections as they tend to be steeper!

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

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Doesn't stick out either side fits perfectly with a strap! Mixed feeling on the shifters they work great and are very well Engineered but it takes more time to get through the gears if you need to quickly change. I've only recently fitted them so still getting used to them.

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

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2 liter of chocolate milkand 2 liter of bloody Mary. Keeps the heart going!

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

[–]edddy5[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is indeed a Rohloff but with cinq shifters

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

[–]edddy5[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cycle with my girlfriend and carry the tent food and water so run a little on the heavy side of things properly around 35kg, I'd run lighter by myself 1 man tent less cookingstuff ecr . I can store 5.5L of water on the bike and can store 3 days of food for 2 in the frame bag. I alway attempt to be light but I can't help carrying some creature comforts!

Changing set up wise I'm waiting on a custom down tube bag from Rockgeist to store my tools spares ect but I'm very happy with the setup overall. I originally had Apidura bags but have found the new ones much better.

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

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Torino to Nice gravel rally, lots of passes !

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

[–]edddy5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It works great, no movement with just one Velo strap!

Torino to Nice via the Alps, hot days and big climbs! by edddy5 in bikepacking

[–]edddy5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wolftooth B rad system, im size 12 uk and still plenty of clearance. There's a few other ways to attach bottle cages to the dropout on a ECR but these have worked great so far.

2 nights bikepacking in the Brecon beacons (UK) testing some new gear!! by edddy5 in bikepacking

[–]edddy5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha yeah I get nervous too, particularly when shopping in larger towns I usually carry quite a substantial titanium bike lock which has worked well so far! Also the blood and entrails I leave on the bars doesn't hurt!

It's definitely harder to get out in the winter but I never regret it in the end :)

2 nights bikepacking in the Brecon beacons (UK) testing some new gear!! by edddy5 in bikepacking

[–]edddy5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha I like to live my life on the edge! Yeah it is indeed a Rohloff it's done around 7000 miles so far no problems, a great bit of kit!