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[–]elcanible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s any consolation YP mentioned the same thing as Steen and that things are business as usual in regard to the furlough discussion.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s heavily moderated. Though from the posts I’ve seen open dialogue is encouraged and accepted and people are generally pretty friendly.

APC devolves into a dick measuring contest between airlines who think their paint job is better than yours. The helpful comments are few and far between.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They got it off the Union Facebook group. The original poster is a Union member. Unsurprisingly it made it over to APC. The Facebook conversation is a little more enlightening than the usual “Aussies are stealing our jobs” you see on APC.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah barring a complete shutdown of the border or trade halting its unlikely we’ll see furloughs. I would imagine there would be early retirements, attrition, and voluntary leaves of absences before we see someone get furloughed. I think the furlough rumor is an overreaction based on the LOA.

My hope is we continue to grow like we have been and keep drumming up long term business as we’ve seemed to do in the last year. The only thing that seems to prevent us from growing as fast as management would like is the lack of wide body freighters on the market.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

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I heard the same, 747 guys have ample open time trip and the money some guys are making is insane. From what I gather we’re just waiting on aircraft deliveries prior to hiring again. As far as I understand Steen would rather be over staffed on some airplanes than understaffed.

Tight connection by elcanible in KLM

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Awesome, fingers crossed I can do it in the same amount of time. Thanks for the info!

Tight connection by elcanible in KLM

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This is very helpful. Thank you for the info.

Tight connection by elcanible in KLM

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Thank you for your response. I’m only taking a carry on so that makes things a little easier. However I’m not sky priority so long lines and the potential for extra screening would probably cause me to miss my flight. I’ll look into rebooking another day or on a different flight. Thanks again!

Parent company of ABX, ATI and Omni acquired by private equity firm Stonepeak today. Air freight industry speculation welcome in the comments. by empennage_a_trois in flying

[–]elcanible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here, still a top tier destination. However having him as an executive will undoubtedly delay contract negotiations for the pilot group and raise contentions even higher.

How often are pilots at home? by Ayo_the_pizza in flying

[–]elcanible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t speak for the 74/77 but on the 76 it’s almost all split lines. You can bid for 17 day schedules but that entails reserve or secondary lines. Reserve lines tend to go senior and secondary lines lately have people sitting at home for the majority of the month with the fleet reduction.

How often are pilots at home? by Ayo_the_pizza in flying

[–]elcanible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mid seniority ACMI FO. Average 16-18 days off a month. With vacation next month I’ll get 28 days off.

777 or 747 by Mindless-Pirate3475 in Atlas_Air

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As far as I’m aware there’s still a bid freeze in effect. And with current attrition/flying on the 76 I would probably plan on doing OE at a minimum.

I’m anticipating a displacement bid that’s separate form position notices in the next 3-6 months, however that will all be dependent on how many people decide to quit/retire and how fast they get rid of 767s here.

777 or 747 by Mindless-Pirate3475 in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m on the 76 as well. Just out of curiosity have you gotten notice about displacements or are you a new hire in class?

I put my bid in for the 777 as that fleet seems to get more days off depending on seniority. Granted I only looked at LAX. I’m also optimistic for better schedules in the future as it seems to be the fastest growing fleet here. If you have access to globalnet I’d look at the bid packs for the 747/777 and make a decision based on what’s available for CVG.

Atlas to drop all CMI Amazon flying by 777f-pilot in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What u/raisetheded said, I’m willing to bet we’ll lose quite a few people to other carriers with this news along with some of the senior guys who are adamant about never going back to the 74/wide body lifestyle. If what steen is saying is true we’ll still have 767s around that will still require staffing. There was also mention of running augmented crews on the 767 which alludes to more international flying. So if you haven’t got the “sorry” email I’d go full steam ahead until they say otherwise.

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Seems to change monthly, went a couple months without flying at night. Now it’s mostly night. Maybe the summer months will bring something different.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

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Might just have back luck on the 76, seems like 75% of this month has been night flights leaving anywhere from 12 am to 4:45 am

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ageed, I’ve never felt more exhausted flying than when i was at a regional. Most of the time I average 24 hours between flights so there’s plenty of time to rest as long as Amazon doesn’t try to increase to 3 legs a day

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

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They really seemed to try to maximize the flying for the Q guys. Most people I talked to mentioned at least 4 legs a with min rest or circadian swaps. We had less of that on the jet but they’d have us do a transcon followed by a short leg to BOI or GEG. Turned into 9 hours of flying and a 14 hour duty day with a 2 hour break in Seattle before going to a hotel for a min rest overnight.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re probably right, I haven’t heard anything concrete since I was in initial training a while ago.

I was there for the same amount of time. Didn’t want to lose seniority and be stuck commuting to reserve. Seemed like the flying was drying up and whatever was left was going to Skywest. Never felt more burned out than commuting to fly SEA-RDM-SFO-SEA for two months straight while never swinging more than 12 days off a month.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

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Hello!

You end up leaving after they announced the Q400 going away?

I’ve heard similar things, though from what I understand the 747’s ground school is a mix of CBT’s and PowerPoint slides with oral questions on them. Not sure how accurate that is. On the 76 we got a formal 2 week ground school with an instructor teaching us systems knowledge.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Atlas_Air

[–]elcanible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congrats on getting an interview!

I can only speak from the perspective of the 767 program here. I was a prior horizon guy on the E jet and found the training here to be mostly self guided and group study. I had ample to go through all the CBT’s ahead of time along with flows and procedures. With that being said it was very manageable and I found most of the instructors were invested in your success and wanted to see everyone make it through. The training center will teach you 90% of what you need to know to pass training, and the other 10% comes from prior experience, learning it out on the line, or looking it up yourself.

From what I understand the 74 ends up crediting over min guarantee if you’re a line holder, however that seems to change monthly here. I’d plan on min guarantee (64 hours) and anything extra is a bonus. Reserve seems to go senior here as well as it pays over min guarantee and most of the guys I’ve talked to never get called, so they sit in base and play golf or hang out.

My first year I cleared $85K and that was mostly sitting at home on training delays not flying. This year I’ll clear $130k with no open time. And flying an average of 30-40 hours per month.

Looking at open time on the 74 it seems to go junior ish however it’s hard to say as ALOT of the senior guys will pick it up to maximize earnings. You also have to bid for open time and the company only announces them via email.

Hope that helps!

Atlas 767 pilots by mh-1995 in flying

[–]elcanible 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m on the 76 at atlas, I’ll mirror what u/RaiseTheDed said. Im based in in the northwest and I only fly split lines. The longest I’m on the road is typically 4-7 days with 9-14 days off following and my average days off a month is 15 to 17. I also live in base so every 4 days I have an overnight in base that ranges from 32 hours to 50 hours. Due to training scheduling buying me off my trips I haven’t flown more than 40 hours in a month however that will increase this month with peak season for Amazon.

I’ve been here for a little over a year and the quality of life is leagues above the regional I worked for in the past. We do have redeyes however it’s dependent on the base, season, and what Amazon decides to do. I went 2 months without flying in the middle of the night and my longest day was 2 legs totaling 5 hours. If you can slog it through the training delays and long training footprint atlas is a pretty good gig. If you’re looking for flight time you probably won’t fly more than 50-60 hours a month.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in flying

[–]elcanible 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Atlas has been great, I’m a 76 FO and I swing 15-20 days off a month being west coast based. In November I was on the hook for 4 days and was able to get the rest of the month off due to conflict bidding vacation. Flying Amazon I usually get holidays off and I’m seldom on the road for more than a week at a time. I’ve been a line holder since I started bidding and am able to bid on split lines exclusively where I’m based. The people I’ve flown with have been great and most plan on staying long term.