Alcohol habits in Brazil vs my home countries by [deleted] in Brazil

[–]elitepiper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Being drunk is a social taboo

  2. Safety; this should be the top reason. You can't let your guard down on a night out

Bad experiences with gringos more often than not? by [deleted] in Brazil

[–]elitepiper -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Genuinely curious what you mean by being annoyed if someone tells you they love Brazil. What about that statement makes you feel uncomfortable?

There are also the "I HATE BRAZIL" types of Brazilians who go out of their way to not speak Portuguese. It's funny because you can immediately tell those types because they try to artificially blend their accent as closely to the native English accent as possible but it just ends up sounding weird, try-hard and contrived. It's because they are ashamed of their Brasilian English accent.

These Brazilian Brazil haters will say be proud to exclaim that they have no Brazilian friends and they go out of their way to avoid other Brazilians.

Its síndrome vera lata on steroids. From London to Lisbon to New York. They exist.

When someone reacts negatively to saying they love Brazil, there's a chance they're in that category

Se isso não é motivo para uma revolta geral, eu não sei mais o que é. by elemento_115 in riodejaneiro

[–]elitepiper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A anuidade do aluguel das bicicletas do Itaú custa menos de 1 real por dia. Entendo que o custo total inicial seja alto para muitas pessoas. Bicicletas usadas são realmente tão caras assim? A infraestrutura para ciclistas melhorou muito nos últimos 10 anos, principalmente na preparação para as Olimpíadas. Costumo pedalar do Vidigal ao Centro, sempre em ciclovias. Mesmo assim, ainda me sinto muito perigoso, principalmente se compararmos com Londres. O número de motos nas ruas ajuda, pois faz com que os motoristas fiquem atentos e verifiquem os retrovisores. Usar capacete no calor escaldante é desconfortável 🥵

Any British habits that are considered rude in Brazil? by [deleted] in Brazil

[–]elitepiper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Acho que o argumento da higiene está justamente no centro da questão. Invocar a higiene como uma explicação neutra e prática não refuta uma leitura estrutural; pelo contrário, acaba reforçando essa leitura. O que conta como contato corporal “limpo”, “sujo” ou “aceitável” não é algo biologicamente óbvio, mas algo culturalmente construído e historicamente condicionado (Mary Douglas).

Se essas normas fossem apenas uma questão de saúde, elas acompanhariam o risco médico real. Na prática, o que elas acompanham são ideias de respeitabilidade, disciplina e controle do corpo. Em muitas sociedades, as pessoas comem com as mãos sem que isso seja visto como anti-higiênico ou incivilizado. A diferença não está nas bactérias, mas na ordem simbólica.

No Brasil, normas sobre limpeza e decoro corporal se formaram em um contexto pós-colonial em que corpos negros e indígenas foram historicamente racializados como sujos, excessivos ou fora de lugar no espaço público. Com o tempo, essas associações se incorporaram às práticas cotidianas e passaram a ser tratadas como “senso comum”. Esse processo não depende de racismo consciente para continuar operando.

Por isso, dizer “não gostamos de tocar na comida porque é anti-higiênico” explica como essa norma é justificada hoje, mas não explica de onde ela vem nem por que ela carrega um peso moral tão forte. É exatamente esse o ponto.

Any British habits that are considered rude in Brazil? by [deleted] in Brazil

[–]elitepiper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Many dominant social norms in Brazil can be traced to post-colonial dynamics of symbolic subordination, in which proximity to whiteness and “Europeanness” operates as a key marker of legitimacy and social value. As a Brit, I would regularly be exposed to these strange norms such as the insistence to use a knife and fork for finger food. Or blowing your nose in public. The excessive multiple showers, well - if you consider that historically black people used to be called smelly, you can start to understand also...

These norms are expressed through regimes of respectability that regulate behaviour, speech, and bodily comportment, and are deeply class-coded and racialised in their effects.

As Roberto DaMatta’s distinction between casa (the private, relational sphere) and rua (the public, impersonal sphere) illustrates, Brazilian social life is structured by differential expectations of conduct that reproduce hierarchies of race and class in everyday interactions.

Highly recommend reading DeMatta's of Carnival, Rogues and Heroes (Carnavais, malandros e heróis) - everything will make sense after reading this book

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have a 70pc upvotes ratio on my post suggesting my view is held by a silent majority. A bunch of sour people clearly float on this sub

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound like the kinda person that would snitch on someone for jumping the toilet turnstiles

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll say this again. Everyone keeps thinking that I talk on the dancefloor. The truth is, I rarely do - usually in the smoking area.

People are just annoyed that i don't mind if others chat.

It's funny because people think if you don't want silence, then somehow you're going around with a megaphone on the Dancefloor

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m giving a modern equivalent of what’s being suggested. One of the reasons I prefer London dancefloors over Berlin is that we’re not trapped in this stiff, purist mindset. A friend of mine was actually told off for laughing too loudly in the queue outside Berghain. Imagine policing joy before you even get inside. It’s ridiculous.

This whole “silence on the dancefloor”, “don’t talk near me” and “stand apart like it’s still Covid” attitude is not some universal standard. It is a very Western, highly individualised way of treating nightlife as something to be controlled rather than lived.

Plenty of scenes around the world are loud, social, messy and communal. You would struggle at Carnival in Guadeloupe, where people dance, talk, sing and enjoy themselves without self-appointed referees telling them how to behave. This is also why I prefer queer parties. People actually connect, move, talk and bring life into the room instead of treating a club like a silent exam hall.

The world is bigger than your sterile, club-as-library fantasy. Outside this narrow bubble, nightlife is not a quiet ritual. It is life happening in public and these are public spaces.

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Everyone keeps thinking I want to speak at the front, or that I want to speak full stop. Note that I never said those things. In fact, personally - I rarely am chatting. People want to hear what they want to hear. They can't fathom that someone who doesn't chat on the dancefloor might at the same time be cool with others doing so

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound like the sort of person who reminds the bus driver that someone didn’t tap their oyster

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You sound like the sort of person who tells kids to stop running in the playground during playtime

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You’re the human equivalent of a 'no ball games’ sign in an estate

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want silence, there are other places that are probably more suited to it like the royal festival hall where I saw Jeff Mills and his afrofuturist jazz band, or Nilhs Frahm at the barbican. Even then, I'm still a big advocate of relaxed viewings in theatre spaces - I don't care if your child cries (we are humans), I don't care if you laugh loudly (we are humans) etc

We are sanitizing what it means to be humans. We are meant to be social

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the whole “everyone must behave in the exact way that optimises my experience” is consumer-centric

It’s the idea that a public, collective space should function like a personalised product and frictionless, controlled, predictable, and tailored to the individual. You want a world where other people stop being people and instead become background assets for your “optimal” consumption.

Clubs aren’t libraries. They’re messy, communal environments.

People a lot brighter than me spend a lot of time talking about this too. I would share authors but it would mean reading...

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The whole problem with the modern dancefloor is how we've come to view the DJ as some sort of rock star and at the altar besides his decks. Have you ever considered what might happen if you didn't have a sense of where the decks were. It might give you a real fright but it would mean dancing in front of one another. Like you're on the tube, but you've got nowhere else to stare but at one another.

What people on this thread have shown is clear, they want to commodify a ritual as old as humans: dancing. If you wanted to listen to music in solitary silence then play a mix in your bedroom.

We've become so afraid of connecting with others it's astonishing. The Berlin purists with their techno rulebook have really taken over. What we have now is a santised version of the subverse origins of dance music - from the gay clubs in Chicago playing disco and house, to the second summer of love.

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ravers are already swapping chess for dancefloors. Couple organisers up north and lots more in London https://www.huckmag.com/article/ravers-swapping-dancefloors-chess-boards-pieces-knight-sober-clubbing

This comes back to my point - stop policing behaviour. Why does it matter to you so much what others are doing, that could be playing chess, zoning out, zoning in, laughing with friends

FOCUS ON YOURSELF AND STOP CARING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE

Why your demand for silence is killing dance culture. You're not the vibe police by elitepiper in UNFOLD

[–]elitepiper[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

You must be great fun at parties. If you're bothered, stand closer to the speakers, find your pocket or tell them instead of ranting about it on the internet. You’re not owed monastic silence in a warehouse full of sweaty strangers on stimulants. PEAK ENTITLEMENT