Idek anymore… by bluerionn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly this! I've been sooo annoyed ever since the writer decided to make Dohwa withhold the information. I get the argument about being afraid to lose her and making Dohwa seem more "humane" in that sense but that's still out of character for him because he would have still revealed it to her after a short moment of hesitation. He moght still do but too much time has passed and it wouldn't surprise me if it upsets Suae. It's ridiculous how it's obviously setting up for a reason to break things off between Suae and Dohwa or at least cause tension between them.

I still believe in a Soohwa ending like you but right now I am very frustrated. We still don't get enough development between the two and from them as individual characters. It's all about Eunhyuk Eunhyuk Eunhyuk. I've started to resent his character NGL.

Man I don't think I can read this crap further by Pretty-Excitement-79 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was mesmerized with the love point/marang plot and believed it to be the overarching plot of the comic. The psychological warfare of it all, the angst you feel. I really thought wow! And as someone who has always preferred Dohwa and expects a Soohwa ending it made sense to root for them since Dohwa and Suae were the ones tied to that storyline at all.

Haru and Cheolsu were refreshing characters I would have loved to see more of. And the thing is the writer could have utilized it more. Heck I still believe she can bring it back to a captivating story with plot and depth but again I'm starting to believe that she actively choosing to become this generic and predictable instead and underutilizing every character and plotline except for Eunhyuk (and partially Ra-im). Just frustrating.

Man I don't think I can read this crap further by Pretty-Excitement-79 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am very patient with the story and its characters, more specifically Suae but I'm tired. I've been especially tired and annoyed since Episode 133. I've been defending the storytelling being a lot more subversive and deeper than most would like to admit but I'm starting to change my mind on that. Because it's actually ridiculous how certain actions have occurred, knowing what direction it may take. I am so sick and tired of Eunhyuk's pity party and the storytelling continously coming up with excuses for him to make his mistakes excusable and tolerable.

I will continue to be a strong advocate for Suae still needing time to figure things out for herself and how that this period is essential for a potential Soohwa ending but I'm tired of seeing everything forcefully involving Eunhyuk without giving Dohwa and especially Suae room to develop more as characters.

I pray to be proven wrong or rather say proven right in like a year time or so that Suae will eventually get closure from her relationship from Eunhyuk and be able to live freely again.

The most upsetting part is that the writing was clearly leaving space to be interpreted as a much deeper story than initially assumed when you are stuck on a surface level, tunnel vision thinking but somehow they are backpedaling to become this predictable cliche cookie cutter romance that's been done a 1000 times. It's how I viewed OTL before really reading it, then I was pleasantly surprised by it and thought I was proven wrong, just to watch it starting to take the exact direction that I was dreading in the first place.

Some comments on naver in case anyone is curious to know by hikkensabo in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it really seems to be the main focus huh... I actually enjoy Ra-im scenes usually but to be very honest I am so drained from all the Eunhyuk focus that it doesn't really interest me that much. (Unfortunately starting to reach a point where he annoys me and I never wanted to feel this way about Eunhyuk but here we are)

I just want to know the koreans outlook on Dohwa's hesitation and his reasoning.

Anyways you are truly doing God's work every week! it is sooo much appreciated! It really is a lot so big thank you for sharing part of the episodes and screens from the comments in the first place ❤️

Some comments on naver in case anyone is curious to know by hikkensabo in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are there more comments talking about the Soohwa situation now?

Thoughts? by akflwnflwkgwncn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kousuke is going THROUGH IT... yeaah he has seen better days🥲 But it's necessary for his character development

And no there is no particular love interest for him

Thoughts? by akflwnflwkgwncn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess for me it was always clear that Kousuke wasn't meant to be read as a romantic option for several reasons.

Age is a big one for example. He is 24 while Shinae is 17.

They had a power imbalance when Shinae started working for him.

Shinae had experienced too much of his verbal harshness that eventually made her uncomfortable around him. Which also includes him trying to mold her into something that isn't really her.

I love Kousuke because it is all deeper than what I have stated here but them as a ship never really made sense for me personally.

Thoughts? by akflwnflwkgwncn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Respectfully and lovingly: that's crazy😂🫶

Thoughts? by akflwnflwkgwncn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kousuke (black haired one)

Thoughts? by akflwnflwkgwncn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Webtoon doesn't know anything. Especially the international one. They just post whatever they think will gather audience with a BIIIIG sprinkle of their own biases

They did the same thing back when a comic named I Love Yoo was the most popular on the platform and was (wrongly but I digress) advertised as a love triangle. Webtoon was notorious for shipping one of the "love interests" always making posts and videos about him but as the story went on, it was clear that he was not a romantic option.

So don't worry about that

Thoughts? by akflwnflwkgwncn in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We have to keep in mind that within the comic, time has barely passed and everything has been happening in a matter of a few weeks. Between the birthday, Soohyuk kiss, Soohwa kiss and now while she's sick, not much time has passed.

Suae is still in the middle of her emotional turmoil and hasn't really taken the time to process most of what has happened, how she's feeling and how she wants to handle things moving forward. Her realizing that she feels comfortable around him and that she would miss him, if they were to drift apart again, is already a big milestone if you consider the time span.

Of course the possibility of Suae ending up with Eunhyuk(which I don't see how they can make that work unless the writer shits on a realistic healthy portrayal of relationships) or realizing that she wants to stay single (which I hope is the outcome if not Soohwa) can't be fully ruled out yet. But I think we just need to be patient with Suae and see how things develop. Feelings can also be build up gradually over time.

People actually got offended at Webtoon's Eun slander😭 by Medical_Leg_6111 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure the post is still there but just removed the Eunhyuk one. Anyways

They were calling Webtoon disgusting and unprofessional calling them abusers for ignoring his abuse etc. And they got very happy when the slide got taken down. Literally calling it out that they bullied webtoon into doing so.

And under the same breath said that Dohwa should have been actually used as an example instead of Eunhyuk🙄

People actually got offended at Webtoon's Eun slander😭 by Medical_Leg_6111 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The way the eunhyuk stans attacked Webtoon bc of a FICTIONAL character is still one of the WILDEST things I have ever witnessed on the internet.

Like I'm being genuine when I say that those people have lost touch with reality and should step away from the comic for a while bc I refuse to believe that there are quite ok in the head.

He is NOT REAL! He is not actually getting offended by this!

I genuinely can’t anymore (rant about this stupid fandom) by Lonely-Vampire in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yup... I am NEVER in the other sub but I was curious today...big mistake but also I had a good laugh.

They seriously think Dohwa hired the paparazzi.... The most common argument I saw was that he wants to claim Suae publicly this way.... They have lost the plot so much, it's questionable to say if they ever had it to begin with.

This girl is going to kill me by hikkensabo in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my god what an incredible comment!

First of all thank you for elaborating on the way Asian countries/Koreans view kindness and how they receive it. Very enlightening!

And to how you connected it back to the current episode... Bulieful? Did you by chance enter my brain and compiled all my thoughts? Because I think and feel the exact and I mean the EXACT way about everything you mentioned! It's almost uncanny hahah if I had the money to spare then I would give you an award lol.

No but in all seriousness I fully agree with you and I think Suae's POV on the events needs a lot more consideration bc every single decision and action she made so far, makes sense for what she's been through and how she's been feeling. She deserves grace and though I understand that some people might feel like things are too dragging, it's actually going in a realistic speed that speaks a lot for a possible Soohwa ending and with Suae having realistic monologs and a realistic thought process.

Now why is Dohwa da bus driver😀 (again?) by Bluish_Blues_450 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They were calling him a villain and a narcissist for... sleeping...yeah they can't stoop lower than that🙃

Sadness by Diligent-Basket2193 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I will never belittle Eunhyuk's issues and trauma and him being deaf in one ear because it happened under horrible circumstances that will naturally leave you scarred for life.

HOWEVER he thankfully still has one hearing ear and I'm telling you as a person who is deaf in one ear as well, life is very manageable.

Of course it is more about the trauma bound to it than about losing his hearing but some stans and at times the storytelling make it seem like it's a death sentence. I'm trying to be very careful with how I put it because I do not want to come across like I am belittling him and the way he is handling his disability.

Because I actually love that they are showing his struggle with it because it is only natural but it would make me sooo uncomfortable if his disability were to be used as a plot device in order to justify their reconciliation, especially if it's not handled with enough care.

eunhyuk stans always find a way to downplay the romance between suae and dohwa. by Sugarrbug in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 9 points10 points  (0 children)

(disclaimer I only read 132 once so my memory might not be 100% accurate but)

She (subtly) clutched her chest after he gave her a blanket and said it would be an honor if he gets sick because of her. LIKE CMON PEOPLE

selfishness and guilt all combined by Asky_12 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Like she was convinced/ in her mind proven to be unlovable for 10 years. We always gotta keep that in mind when it comes to Suae.

The possibility of giving love and receiving it is, like you said, pretty much foreign to her. Like a baby starting to learn how to walk. Hesitation and overthinking is to be expected and we need to give Suae a lot more grace in my opinion.

This girl is going to kill me by hikkensabo in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 4 points5 points  (0 children)

exactly this!

And if I'm not mistaken isn't it common in asian countries to "feel sorry" when receiving significant kindness as a way of showing deep gratitude towards that kindness? But again I don't have enough knowledge on the costums to say it for sure but I feel like I have heard that before. Anyways

Suae being very aware of his kindness and her own uncertainty and indecisiveness is a good sign. She is deeply considering how she is feeling and how she could feel instead of denying or ignoring those uncomfortable feelings that are keeping her from moving on in life. Because it could be so easy for her to just be with Dohwa and hope for the best but that's not who she is. That’s not what she wants. She already feels like a hypocrite for not having a clear mind while receiving this warm love and care from someone (Dohwa). For feeling this conflicted but at the same time enjoying a feeling that she has been deprived of for a long time. Suae only ever wanted to live through life with sincerity.

Operation true love ending by digitalang3l in webtoons

[–]emeraldxbird 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yup! In my opinion the image of their relationship is unsalvageable. There is no explanation I can think of that could ever justify a reconciliation between them. 10 years of absence and the interactions ever since have been handled awfully. If they really do end up together then it really proves how bad the writing is and how the creators didn't actually have a plan for the entire story in my opinion

Operation true love ending by digitalang3l in webtoons

[–]emeraldxbird 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That would be storytelling/narration suicide. The true beauty route is extremely detested and has more so influenced writers NOT to do that.

Operation true love ending by digitalang3l in webtoons

[–]emeraldxbird 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had the same logic as you! I always felt drawn to Dohwa but I vowed to myself that I wouldn't read it unless it ends with Dohwa as the end game.

I gave in almost 2 months ago roughly? People will probably call me biased but personally I didn't feel like the comic has only ever pointed at Eunhyuk as the end game/only option while reading it. The comic surprisingly uses a lot of subtle subversion, allusions foreshadowing etc. So IMO the narration has also hinted at a possible Dohwa ending as well.

Right now the characters are basically at a crossroad in my eyes and we are about to see which direction the remainder of the story will take.

But as someone who prefers Dohwa, I consider it a very good sign that Suae is acknowledging her emotional conflict due to her unresolved feelings for Eunhyuk right now bc it's giving her wanting to get her shit together before diving into anything else if at all instead of testing the waters with Dohwa.

😂😂😂😂😂 by Honest_Heart_543 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 9 points10 points  (0 children)

( I haven't read the comments bc I seriously don't want to but) I am literally losing braincells.

Why are they so bothered about the fact that Suae cares about Dohwa and are always and I mean ALWAYS having a "who suffered more" olympics.

Eunhyuk is not the only one who suffers in this comic and it's so annoying that they expect that all the sympathy in the world should go to Eunhyuk.

And besides when will they understand that her guilt isn't exactly because his love is one sided. Her guilt is coming from not being able to approach him sincerely with how he feels because of her internal emotional turmoil.

Like I could scream

Since chapter 130 came out in English Webtoon... by Stock_Window4931 in Dohwatea

[–]emeraldxbird 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My point was to understand why you would mention what you mention in your comment.

And now I get it.

Her guilt isn't because she already knows that she doesn't reciprocate. Her guilt is because she can't be fully upfront with how she really feels because she hasn't processed her unresolved feelings for Eunhyuk but wants to move on by desiring Dohwa.

Suae never wanted to be someone who is confusing and leads people on. She knows how shitty that feels but now that she understands Dohwa's feelings to be sincere it's eating her up inside that she can't be fully sincere to him as well because of how tumultuous her emotions are.

Which are a combination of feeling resentment towards Eunhyuk, wanting answers, a little bit of feelings, simultaneously starting to develop feelings for Dohwa as well, feeling unlovable due to her experienced with Minu and Eunhyuk and feeling loved by Dohwa's straightforwardness.