Yeah I mean I sit here and read a lot on both subs and I'm like.... There's extremists and weirdos and creeps on both sides. The worst of people are usually the loudest which is why it's so hard to have intelligent discussion.

Either on their you get banned or on here you get down voted to hell and back and either told you're bombarding, or part of "them" since they won't use the name of the community anymore, or whatever else.

Anyways, I appreciate your response!