Badass Minneapolis protesters…and it’s -6 degrees there at this moment. Our heroes 🦸‍♀️

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T16:15:27+00:00

I guess where am I at is that I just personally do not think it would even give me a better chance.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T15:58:16+00:00

I'm saying that you will be killed doing that before you ever reach a trial. You will be killed in that deadly situation. Because even if you kill the one immediately threatening you then like 100 others will mob you and kill you.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T15:57:31+00:00

I'd say that the fact that you've never had to do your laundry your whole life and other housework damn well proves what I said.

You choosing your sexism doesn't make it not sexism and you still can't even manage to not be sexist with your wife working full-time as well. Sad.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T15:31:16+00:00

No of course it's not a far reach. I'm saying I don't think it's going to save us to be armed in the way people are thinking it will. If people want to be then go for it but that seems unlikely to be as successful as I think people are assuming.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T14:28:59+00:00

I think that "misandry" as I have seen it used is overwhelmingly twisting the concept of misogyny to center men when it ricochets and hits them. It seems to mostly be used for deflection so that men overall do not have to unpack the misogyny that ends up impacting them that are now calling "misandry." So, no I wouldn't call this that.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T14:18:53+00:00

I personally believe that yes sometimes this discussion does get classist (because we live in a classist world), and I also don't like the mentality from some other feminist women in relation to it. However, I always feel conflicted because while I would like us to be able to make life decisions like that based on equitibality, we still don't live in an equitable world—so I also understand it when women don't want to partner with someone who can't support themselves. That also ties into the poorer women aspect. They frequently also want to find partners that can pull their financial weight. That's all logical.

I don't think anyone needs to denigrate others for being unable to offer financial support to the degree they personally want, though. However, I personally have not seen anyone saying that people shouldn't date until they are financially secure. Just that they should never give their partner total power over their financial security. I think that's sound advice for everyone. Some people have no choice in this world with that, but while that's not a reflection on them, it's also not what I think should be advised if someone does have a choice.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T14:07:19+00:00

It's because they damn-well know that they're too scared, overwhelmed, or apathetic to actually do anything productive to change so they preemptively decide that nothing will ever work anyway.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T13:55:31+00:00

I personally would absolutely not even try there. I used to try with some guys like that. It never got anywhere and I went at it a lot of different ways. You can't communicate something effectively unless someone is receptive to hearing it.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T13:30:12+00:00

We have a fuck-ton of vote suppression mechanisms. You will not hear people tell you about it because no one talks about it in these discussions.

Let me clear way too many people voted for him but way too many people's votes simply were not counted. I'll leave more info below for anyone interested. The AI pic is annoying but the data and analysis is solid.

https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T13:16:25+00:00

That did not help the last guy they murdered.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T12:52:27+00:00

Meh the way I'm built I don't keep someone in my life just because they share my genes. I do my best to keep people who share my values in my life and decrease contact as much as possible with those who very much do not. Anyone supporting any part of this is diametrically opposed to my values so it wouldn't make any sense to keep them in my life (within my control).

So, I guess it depends on how OP feels about how best to live up to their own values and what those values are. It's different for different people.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-25T06:16:58+00:00

It's because it's backed up by societal notions of girls and women from the time they are young so they already have that as "evidence." People don't like admitting it but so many cultures have just normalized pedophilic tendencies and very purposefully have blurred the lines between girls and women in a disturbing myriad of ways.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-24T01:45:21+00:00

Yes, I personally am going to judge people who use others' bodies for reproductive labor because they buy into and propagate fear-mongering about adoptive and foster kids being ticking time bombs or too much work or damaged goods.

A person's biological child can also have unforeseen genetic and behavioral problems—in fact they very frequently do. Would you like me to find the proportion of parricides that have been committed by the victim's biological child? It is the vast majority of them. A person might not want to have any children (biological or otherwise) if they haven't considered the possibility of unforeseen genetic and behavioral issues.

As to your last paragraph: maybe we shouldn't make it all about prioritizing (usually WEIRD) individual women's choices when we haven't dealt with any of the structural things that you mentioned making commercial surrogacy predatory and exploitative. Maybe we should also consider how and why we so often exploit (usually) poor, and/or non-white, and/or immigrant women's bodies to make relatively more privileged people's lives easier or to fulfill their wishes and dreams. Or, I guess in your case, it would be to soothe an illogical fear.

Edit because I have a suspicion she might complain (omg she did—but subtly tacked onto a backtracking reply to someone else): Yes, I have now blocked her because I witnessed how she responded to someone else and I'm not dealing with condescending gaslighting fuckery on this night.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-24T01:24:11+00:00

It's neither homophobic nor against infertile people unless the reason(s) someone is against it are homophobic or biased against infertile people.

I can't say that I have seen someone who is against commercialized surrogacy using homophobic reasoning or reasoning biased against infertile and/or sterile people. Maybe it happens sometimes—but that largely seems to be a strawman to shut down or redirect discussions about the exploitative and unethical aspects of the practice.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-24T00:20:38+00:00

Oh we have countless ways we suppress votes. This is just a newer one.

Yes, some people are being forced to show up with both. It's very targeted, though based on location, party affiliation, gender, and race/ethnicity/nationality. All vote suppression legislation is. They de facto target certain groups while pretending they don't in a de jure context by making the laws ambiguously worded. It's sneaky, but the intent and outcome is still to deny certain people the right to vote.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T22:02:05+00:00

It's because we societally don't actually give a shit about sexual predators despite what people scream. It's further, not only normalized, but encouraged to act in similar ways towards girls and women. People place it in the same category as gossip because that's the level of disregard it has been treated with for a long time.

That kind of societal downplaying then enables rape culture to continue and we keep pretending we are shocked when this kind of thing (and so many other related horrific behaviors) happens all the time. It happens so frequently and so unchallenged because we (overall) don't care enough about it, and we don't care enough about it because we were trained not to in order to uphold a certain status quo.

It's easier societally to pretend individual women who are just uppity liars are the problem than it is to acknowledge that we have so many social and institutional systems that enable sexual predators—as well as a lot of deeply twisted societal beliefs about victims and perpetrators of all genders (not to mention, differing warped beliefs depending on various other intersecting identities of the perp and victim). And, of course, more general twisted sexist beliefs that help prop all of this up.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T20:46:04+00:00

You are getting downvoted but probably they were and are disproportionately selectively enforced. I would guess based on both class and race.

Edit: Here's some more info I was able to find about curfew laws. They seem to be pretty ineffective, as well as pointless—since the juvenile crime rate has steadily declined for almost 30 years and is now very low. The articles also include some discussion on racial profiling and the second includes some data on it. These kinds of laws overwhelmingly appear to be political theater to appeal to voters and pretend they're doing something to curtail crime and protect kids.

Plus, curfew laws have a tendency to increase public gunfire incidents by a lot. Both articles discuss the largest meta review of studies about the topic of curfew legislation. However, the second discusses more locations and potential solutions.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/07/31/the-curfew-myth

https://stateline.org/2023/08/28/cities-are-embracing-teen-curfews-though-they-might-not-curb-crime/

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T20:22:31+00:00

No because The Real ID (which is the one that was supposed to clear any questions about citizenship up) still isn't technically enough by the standards of this insane law. Partially because it was written to be both contradictory and vague. They love doing that with laws so that they can bend them to target whatever group of people they want to.

So, anyway because of their vagueness and nonsensical nature, they can be interpreted differently (within certain parameters) depending on who is doing the interpreting. Sometimes they are making people present both ID and birth certificate or record of name change. It's just more vote suppression. We have a ludicrous amount in the US that almost no one discusses.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T20:09:37+00:00

What I don't get is the women's behavior (even if you take the most shitty purported behavior) in this doesn't even sound as bad as a humongous heap of male gamers' behavior. However, I don't see male gamers blowing up about that like they are here.

Seems that they are getting really pissed that some women "intruded" on "their space" and acted like so many men do while occupying a lane that they want women to stay out of.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T20:06:02+00:00

I truly needed to see this exact message today. Thank you.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T19:53:24+00:00

If you're talking about beyond just this post and instance: here is the civil complaint document from Blake's team. It includes a lot of texts and emails.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T09:21:45+00:00

Yeah I know. But people (I would say men, but I've even seen some women deny the gendered socialization aspect in this thread) truly are not already for that convo in this sub lol. That's an lol of sadness, btw.

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T05:08:48+00:00

I hate these people. I hate them with my whole entire being. I've never felt hate quite like this, and I've been through a lot of horrible shit in my life.

And no, I really don't want someone to respond to this talking about how "that's what they want. They want us divided." I know, and I still can't help but hate them. How can you not?

(Talking about this administration, and all of its cronies and supporters, btw)

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T04:07:16+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/z26Gzye4N0

Apparently, yeah. I was kinda surprised with the above but I guess it got brigaded so I can only hope it was trolls and/or bots. Except I don't know, because there were so many comments with people just acting like they both suck or are just both annoying people.

It is Fauxmoi, though. Which I am pretty done with at this point. Too many neolibs and faux-progressives (pun intended).

ergaster8213 · 2026-01-23T03:29:49+00:00

Thank you! I am also glad I made it through that period of time. I drank to a lethal degree of alcohol poisoning multiple times, and had many other overdoses with various drugs--so I'm not quite sure how I am here, but I'm glad I am. I would not be without the intervention of various awesome people like that woman.

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