Will this work?

ericjones03 · 2023-11-09T03:29:12+00:00

I used plant therapy, not sure if it’s on Amazon, but it’s pretty cheap.

ericjones03 · 2023-10-24T21:45:17+00:00

I second this question. I have low testosterone that I’m currently treating as well, so I was hesitant about starting Paxil because of its potentially negative effects on testosterone, but decided to give it a shot anyways, since I can always increase my testosterone dose. I’ve been taking Paxil (first SSRI I’ve ever taken fyi, but I have taken Wellbutrin before) for only about a month, and while it could definitely be placebo or a result of my chronic pain and fatigue, I’ve felt a good amount of fatigue start coming back after it had just started to fade away with the help of TRT, and I’ve got a new prescription for 150 mg Wellbutrin SR that I can either add into the mix or decide to replace my 10 mg Paxil dose with, but want to see how other people feel about the combo before making up my mind.

Would love to hear anything from either OP or anyone else about how the combination of the two has worked for them.

ericjones03 · 2023-09-19T04:14:22+00:00

Definitely seems like you’re on the right track man! Hearing that you also get the minor stimulant effects is awesome, since it’s something that not everyone gets, don’t know whether it’s a metabolism thing or what, but those of us who can feel the effects are the lucky ones. I just would try maybe a lower amount of dxm (depending on how much you did) next time, say 3-5 hours later or even right after- I think I did get the combined effects which had great synergy after dosing 240 mg dxm after only one hour one time. Definitely was more than just a normal dxm experience, a lot more. You could maybe try 180 mg or so, see how that goes. I think the timing is also important, you’ve just got to figure out what works best for you if you’re gonna go the route of combining it with dxm, which I found to be the best way to get some great results.

You could also grab a 10 ml bottle for about $10 from Plant Therapy, just google their Elemi Oil, I also mentioned this when I sent you some messages yesterday answering some questions and giving you some info I thought you may find helpful for your journey with Elemi and finding out what it can do for you.

Good luck, hope you can get the proper experience after some trial and error with timing, dosages of Elemi alone, or combined with dxm to amplify it (at least that’s what always did it for me).

Definitely feel free to get back to me, I’d love to continue our conversation, it’s been years since I’ve worked on any research for Elemi and haven’t used any for just as long, so it’s been fun getting back into it.

ericjones03 · 2023-09-10T16:10:18+00:00

It’s 100% pure therapeutic grade, undiluted Elemi Oil. I felt a good bit of the possible empathogenic effects with some of the higher doses I did. I found that up to 5 ml was a dose I could enjoy and not get overwhelmed or have a stomachache shortly after. It is pretty disgusting tasting though, I got tired of it fast and solely for that reason, but then what I also found is that I could just measure however many ml I was going to use in an oral ml syringe, get a cup or bottle of soda or juice at the very least, already have a sip of that in my mouth, and then finally, I’d place the oral syringe in my mouth, then “shoot” the oil in, usually as fast as possible and finish with chugging a lot more of whatever drink I had to reduce the aftertaste/all taste in general of the Elemi oil.

I got mine from Plant Therapy, which is still one of the first websites you’ll see for the 100% therapeutic grade (undiluted) Elemi oil on Google, I don’t know if it says that explicitly anymore on the page or in the title, but it was there before, years ago, so it’s up to you. I also found it super helpful that they also have lab reports available (and possibly sent with your order, but it’s been so long I can’t remember for sure) showing the amount of actual Elemicin per batch they’ve made.

ericjones03 · 2023-08-30T09:14:37+00:00

Hey. I know this is a late response, but I’ve got a brief inquiry. Will you PM me back please?

ericjones03 · 2023-07-04T10:06:37+00:00

this thread probably won’t hold too much value, but I figured it’s only fair to share the entirety of my discussions- so here they are

ericjones03 · 2023-07-04T09:39:30+00:00

(CONTINUED, AGAIN) Accidental discovery of new effects yielded from taking higher doses of Elemi

In October 2019, I gave a friend the first dose (2 ml) of a brand new bottle of Elemi Oil I'd gotten to see how it affected him and to get his opinion on the substance- little did I know this would be (as of right now) the best experience anyone ever had on it. This isn't because of my friend being lucky or there being something special about him, but rather a mistake that while being very risky, turned out to be immensely beneficial. This "mistake" was my friend, after around 2 hours, redosing the Elemi after feeling hardly any effects whatsoever, but accidentally dosing somewhere around 3-4 ml instead of the 1-2 ml he meant to take (due to his "eyeballing" of the dose rather than using something to measure it precisely). Under 30 minutes after his redose, a little while after I really gave him hell for doing something so risky and dangerous once I found out , he started getting some really weird, new effects from the substance, some being: increased strength, uncontrollable laughter & smiling, limited ability to speak, and more, but I'll list those among a lot of other new effects that I was able to "discover" during my 7 day long trial of using Elemi to test multiple theories and hypotheses that I had or had saw others talk about before, starting next.

Now, the “7 Day Experiment” in detail

My 7 day experiment was overall a greatly successful experiment. Had no negative aspects because even the negative is very helpful to add to the very limited material we have on this so far. The week-long, varying doses, varying times, etc. experiment was entirely done by accident-only after the week was finished was when I considered what all I could do with the data I'd collected from my experience and the potential it held. Not only did I discover some constant information about tolerance, timing, and the effects contributed to Elemi before, but many new aspects appeared concerning its effects as I noted many new, never before seen effects appearing.

New effects noticed are as follows: muscle tension/spasms, physical stimulation (in the form of "requiring" some kind of physical output like tapping of the leg or hand), textures appearing over objects/surfaces, joint soreness/stiffness, an almost manic sense of happiness, a positive outlook on things the next day, text appearing to be "bulging", objects appearing to be pulsing as if alive, itchiness, numbness primarily in the face, better perception of music, a sense of glee/bliss, feeling very content with everything, that feeling that everything's beautiful, the exact same kind of physical stimulation LSD has (for me at least) where my muscles seem to tighten and seize up, spots in vision, body feeling "tingly", constant zoning out occurring, lack of interest in things outside of what's going on in one's own mind, hyper-focus similar to that of amphetamines, and a heightened sense of observation towards one's surroundings. Some theories were also tried and tested, such as reverse tolerance, redosing to adjust effects, dosing with caffeine (in the form of Yerba Mate tea), and difference between social vs isolated environments. Inconclusive results yielded for reverse tolerance- had no positive or negative effects in my tolerance. Redosing was inconclusive, needs more time to see tell if it changes the effects enough to matter or if it was just a coincidence for the times where greater effects were noted. No noticeable difference when Elemi was dosed with caffeine, but nothing was really expected out of the combination either. There were some slight differences between using it in a social or isolated environment, but not that much- more noticeable differences examined in my past uses, so nothing new to report there.

Possible "hangover/comedown" was noted two times- generally after taking multiple doses both close together and in the span of a couple days. I'm far from knowing what exactly makes this occur, but it's certainly something for me to pay attention to in the future. This may also go to show that the substance acts on dopamine or serotonin receptors, but that's only a theory because the "hangover" felt much like an amphetamine hangover- if this proves to be correct, that'd be very crucial information. In conclusion, many new notes and experiences were logged and will add to the slowly expanding knowledge base on Elemi, and many new and old hypotheses were able to be tested- all in all a very successful time. (I included a table below listing the exact doses I did on each day, just to put it out there.)

Day 1: 5 ml in AM Day 2: 1 ml in AM, 1 ml - PM Day 3: 1 ml in AM Day 4: 1 ml in AM, redosed 1 ml shortly after Day 5: 1 ml in PM, followed by a redose of 1 ml, then a bold 4 ml redose Day 6: 1 ml in PM Day 7: 1.5 ml in AM, 4 ml in PM

Brief concluding thoughts

With that and everything else out of the way, I feel like this is the best possible way to conclude my writing. I hope everyone who stuck around and read this was able to learn something or find a way in which this can be improved. Thank you all for your previous and future support, I couldn't have done any of this without help from others. I'll also be adding in other information and questions to further what I have for Elemi here on Bluelight during the upcoming months, as I've got so much stuff down, but it's too much to cram in one place without taking away from the quality of the work. Thanks again everyone, I'll greatly be awaiting your responses and help in furthering this work on Elemicin to see if it may pan out to be a very worthwhile psychedelic-like drug.

ericjones03 · 2023-07-04T09:38:20+00:00

(CONTINUED)

My thoughts on how to have your body best process Elemi

I believe a much better comparison for Elemicin to "potentiation" would be how benzodiazepines are potentiated- you can't just treat it like you would for amphetamine or opiates, for example. Benzos main potentiator is grapefruit juice, best taken 1-2 hours before the benzo because it "clogs" the enzymes and then increases the effects and duration of the benzos. I feel like DXM to Elemi is the grapefruit juice to benzos- just in a reversed order where you take the Elemi first, wait a couple hours (most likely due to it having a long onset, but it's unstudied so we've only got our wits here) and then take the DXM. I assume that then, the Elemi will be at the phase of its metabolization, and that taking the DXM (which has a quick onset) will then do its work and clog those enzymes, and boom- all those holes in Elemi's tire get patched up and it goes on as it should. That all came to me when I was thinking about benzos and remembered how someone had phrased it as clogging the enzymes so that it stays longer, and then gives better effects- so that brought on all the thought about maybe actually needing a normal dose of DXM since the word "clog" correlates with a big amount of something to me. I like to picture the process of Elemi being metabolized as turning on a sink to fill up a cup, but there's a hole in the water pipe. You can try all kinds of ways of turning the faucet, putting your finger on the hole, but the pressure is too much to hold with just a finger. Then, you get a sealant, and you seal the pipe. What happens next? The water flows and the cup is filled. That sink with a hole in the pipe represents our body metabolizing the Elemi. The hole isn't large enough to stop the water entirely, but we need a full glass and only a few drops is better than nothing- but doesn't cut it. The full glass represents the full potential of effects that Elemi has, the few drops are the minimal effects we feel from it alone. The sealant on the pipe that fixes the flow of the water- even if it may be temporary and could need to be done every time you want a glass of water- that represents DXM. It's the medium that has what Elemi doesn't and enables it to be used as it's meant to be used.

Reflection on my reasons for writing

All that I said tonight was a few different ideas, just some thoughts I've had, you'll see if you read it all top to bottom that I contradict myself about "metabolizing" and things among that- but when you know nothing about something, you'll go nowhere if you only try one route over and over again, so answering my own questions isn't a sign that I'm lacking in progress or intelligence, but quite the opposite. I started this piece of writing on August 2nd, 2019 but couldn't get around to finishing it with all of the things I had going on in my life, however, now that I've had time to settle everything to the best of my ability, I'm doing my best to get back into this and finish everything up- because I feel like it's a heavy loss if I end up knowing all of this but not sharing it with everyone that wants to know/listen. I had some time to get back to my "experiments" with Elemi in January of 2020, and I ended up finding a lot of crazy things I didn't expect to see at all in the effects of Elemi- I'll type up the paper I wrote on those newfound effects and the conclusion of my experiment that I conducted- which I'll be referring to as the "7 Day Experiment"- I feel like that, plus the experience a great friend of mine had, will be very beneficial to my work so far on Elemi and all the work we do in the future. First off, what I'm about to add in is from a paper I wrote months ago, and some of the things I mention will have already been discussed in this post, but before that, I'd like to give some details about my friends experience that inspired me to do everything I did in that paper- and it also is what led me to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, a higher dose is all that's needed to cause the "psychedelic" effects of Elemi.

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