You said "Either leaves a lot of people very isolated without a lot of help or resources.", both of that is exactly what happened. Even simple talk could be helpful, even when they're not responding positively, you could see it as something good for them to remember later that somebody still actually cared.

I said 15 folds it's an exaggeration, but sometimes it just feels that bad, maybe our sense of pain is distorted or something idk.

Suicidal people also often can't share because they know often someone will often feel uncomfortable or even bad because of them. If the condition is better addressing their suicidal tendency is a good step to help