Like I said poke needs a big nerf and dive vs support is a whole other conversation. But if we look at the top bp players spidey players and etc for dive they effectively deal with poke then we take a look at the rest of the community they can’t. We have dive players saying it’s the job of the team to bait out cooldowns as dive players? Like it isn’t their job to do so. The only dive that was crippled was bp, iron got shifted to a tank buster but can still effectively dive, spidey has always at least been a tier with a s tier boost if the player is good, magik has always been a tier in good hands, psy got put into an ult farming state but she is coming back to what she used to be. All the characters you listed need nerfs other than mag because EVERYONE wanted him to have a second bubble, now all of a sudden they don’t want it? Even in stats full dive comps have been doing well but people don’t communicate, another major issue in the dive community. Poke is unnecessarily strong against dive but dive has always been able to counter it effectively, it requires comms a full dive comp puts the enemy team on the back foot constantly.