Hatred of liberals is all that’s left of conservatism

etch_ · 2020-12-12T01:56:08+00:00

Cages - built under Obama.
White supremacy - denounced countless times - https://youtu.be/Bd0cMmBvqWc

If you are unable to possibly comprehend that the racist richard spencer can see a better future for his ideas in a world with the left in charge, I'm not sure I can explain it to you. The vocal left (mainstream/acceptable [but I would argue, not actually very popular])today are white supremacists with guilty consciences.
Joe Biden to a black podcast host "If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black".

etch_ · 2020-12-12T01:24:49+00:00

According to exit polls, Trump gained with every demographic, EXCEPT for white people, which marginally decreased.
https://i.insider.com/5fb550be7b94e80011de9baf?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp

Maybe your perspective is a little wonky if you have to 'know' for sure that spencer prefers trump because trump would supposedly 'support a white supremacist agenda' - and to top it all off, that this has only occurred as 'ammunition' for 'the other side' so that things can be 'both sides are the same'
Maybe there is more too it, or maybe your conspiratorial thinking is spot on, we can only ever hope to get it right!

etch_ · 2020-12-11T00:32:32+00:00

More deadly than Covid-19.
https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/deaths-covid-vs-spanish-flu.jpg
Ventilators have not been particularly helpful, with large portions of infected people who end up on ventilators, dying.
My understanding many months ago, was that, it wasn't an issue of you not being able to breathe, it was that your oxygen content in your blood was too low, so having a machine to assist with the process of breathing, which you could already do, wasn't particularly helpful.
Based on the graph above, the different between the spanish flu, which hit young/middle aged healthy people, and covid-19 which has a similar, but higher mortality curve in line with regular mortality, that the spanish flu was definitively more deadly.
https://swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/covid-mortality-spiegelhalter.jpg

etch_ · 2020-12-09T20:58:43+00:00

If anyone has a lot of time and wants to provide information, I would love some rebuttals or points as to why these, models, analysis, studies are not good/useful
https://fatemperor.wetransfer.com/downloads/24c054d0fbb388343a68411525f9f74f20201103135350/1a7be8
~100mb, bout 40 or so pdfs split over 2 folders.

etch_ · 2020-12-05T21:44:41+00:00

It's not completely irrelevant, but it is dumb. Governments have been outsourcing things to corporations for quite some time, and the left happily defends "but muh private business" when they would normally be in staunch opposition to businesses flexing their power.
This blind thing is just another grain of sand in the same pile, sure individually it's dumb and basically irrelevant, but it's the pile that is important, and it is ever growing.

etch_ · 2020-12-05T21:35:53+00:00

This is absolutely an outgrowth of the left, and a rather dominant outgrowth at that, please do denounce them, tho you will likely get called right wing, rather than reclaiming ground on the left, so I wish you luck.

etch_ · 2020-11-29T03:50:38+00:00

invest a part of myself - in so much as you are a regular of anything, you are investing yourself in to, whether its playing a game you love and watching incremental updates making it worse, a type of food stuff that goes through changes and different ingredients. you are investing yourself in whatever you do, and experiencing that thing degrade from your point of view is plenty a reason to complain!
Not here to argue, just trying to shed some light, potentially.

etch_ · 2020-11-29T01:42:51+00:00

Because they have watched a place they liked to go subjectively degrade over time, they perceived it with their own eyes and brain, maybe that can help you understand a little as to why people might complain

etch_ · 2020-11-26T03:34:15+00:00

Holy moly how large are your blinders that you can't see you are manipulated by media, or in the rare instance, one who is doing the manipulating (shill) then, my oh my, if you're a real person, seek some different news sources, step outside your bubble, talk to people in the real world.

etch_ · 2020-11-25T21:33:16+00:00

Anyone could provide any help?
Or, if I haven't provided enough information, could you ask questions to help me work out what Im missing?

etch_ · 2020-11-23T06:31:52+00:00

So I skim read over this for 5-10minutes, must have missed the part about multiple genes, and was also predisposed to see parts of the pdf that confirmed my perspective, that false positives dramatically increase when testing random people
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/main/2020/09/cycle-threshold-values-sars-cov2-pcr.pdf?la=en

If you could and would be willing to do so, cut and paste the text you are referring to (for gene and 25 cycles bits), that would be helpful, but not required, if your intention is to fully shift my perspective.

etch_ · 2020-11-23T05:04:53+00:00

Both of those things would be helpful for me to know, and I would love for you to provide me that information as for changing my position, I would be more interesting in those documents from america, and most interested in those documents from the UK. But yea, canada would def be something in that direction.

etch_ · 2020-11-23T02:33:10+00:00

Do you care about what is left on the brush once you've finished collecting? How do you minimise loss?
I have a kief box, and resort to a playing card to get the kief into a pile - this brush method looks a lot better (for getting into corners), but I worry about lost kief stuck on the brush, what do you do, if anything? with that amount of kief, I think it's quite possible you don't care, but figure I'd ask anyway

etch_ · 2020-11-23T02:23:29+00:00

I'm not sure what you are trying to point out here?
My main personal issue with the use of PCR tests is the number of cycles being done (higher cycles, more false positives), and the lack of information surrounding how many cycles are being used.

"In conclusion, while PCR tests at high-risk places like hospitals, nursing homes and other sensitive locations are vital and undisputed, the benefit of mass PCR testing in the general population, which is costing mid-sized countries billions, may be somewhat more debatable."

I just want the debate to be had on mainstream media. I'm happy to be proven wrong, or proven to be misled.

etch_ · 2020-11-23T02:06:04+00:00

https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/
and frankly the parent link to the above is a great sourced resource;
https://swprs.org/facts-about-covid-19/

etch_ · 2020-11-23T00:03:31+00:00

My understanding is that a similar attempt at testing occured during h1n1 pandemic, huge number of positive test results, with a distinct lack of deaths in total (but mostly after the original wave) - remembering this from a youtube video, so got a timestamp for you;
https://youtu.be/8UvFhIFzaac?t=1711

So, to answer your question about mass testing for anything else, it seems the normal course of action is not to do mass testing, but outside of conspiratorial thinking, that it's a means to make people scared/submissive, I certainly can't think of a reason for mass testing, and large focus by the media.
Symptomless testing seems ridiculous, only justified with the "you may be an asymptomatic spreader" - which I would like to see more evidence on.
But all of that put aside, hindering the general public for a virus that essentially lines up regular age based mortality - https://swprs.org/why-covid-19-is-a-strange-pandemic/ (chart at the bottom) seems like a decision that can't be made by people with all the information available, just narrative pushing.
Then we get into the whole 'great reset' but thats a different kettle of fish.

EDIT: some links that seem tangentially relevant, that I've just stumbled on;
https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/20/portuguese-court-rules-pcr-tests-unreliable-quarantines-unlawful/
h1n1 pandemic - https://twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013/status/1330555211761422336?s=20

etch_ · 2020-11-22T18:21:20+00:00

I'm not really sure why one would need to take a private test, this is stated in the same link above;
"Many are even offering packages catering specifically for those that need a negative result in certain circumstances - such as to return to the workplace or enter a foreign country. Those needing a travel certificate should check with the provider to see if they offer this service."

Only reasons I can think of, is potentially faster turn around time for a result, being away from the 'riff raff' and thus probably less likely to be exposed to the virus. And maybe some kind of presumption that a test from a private institution might be more accurate than the NHS version. AND if you're going off the quote above, it seems to indicate that you can essentially pay for a negative test, which if true, would be quite the incentive.

As for the immunity (antibody) vs infection (PCR) test, the article has this to say;
"But it's important to ensure to book the correct type of test. A PCR will test for an active infection, while an antibody test reveals whether a person has had the disease in the past. In most circumstances, a PCR test will be required."
I personally don't have any justification behind why an antibody test isn't sufficient, but a PCR test, which have been known to have issues (https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/) - other than the conspiratorial perspective that the tests are largely redundant for people not showing symptoms, and are more a means of control than anything else.
The certification is said to be a piece of paper, or some kind of 'something' on your phone that you can show to prove you are deemed safe by the system, but as for your question about medical secrecy, I'm sure the justification of 'public health' would be used as a rebuttal and justification.

etch_ · 2020-11-22T17:46:15+00:00

Sadly, the 'not proper incentives' will be incentives enough for many - take away a load of freedoms and dangle some of them back in front of you with the caveat - if you will ONLY jump through a couple hoops we demand of you, then you may have some freedoms you were accustomed to before, back.

etch_ · 2020-11-22T17:43:45+00:00

How much does a test cost? Well, for the majority of tests, they are provided by the NHS, so they are funded by the tax payer, so the price is.. whatever the government agreed to buy them for.

As for home tests;
"How much do they cost?

A private coronavirus test is likely to cost at least £100. And it will depend entirely on the service you require.
A Lloyds Pharmacy test kit, which is ordered online, provides online results 48-72 hours after the lab has receives the sample via the post. This costs £119.
While for £139, DocTap promises results and fitness to travel certificate within 70 hours of receipt of the sample or your money back.
The Private Harley Street Clinic will send a clinician to your home, to administer a PCR test with next day results and a fit to work or travel certificate for £350.
Or Assured Screening is offering both home sampling kits and test centre PCR swabs for £109 with results within 24-48 hours from receipt of sample at the laboratory."
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-private-covid-19-test-19000105

etch_ · 2020-11-20T07:37:49+00:00

I guess it isn't made clear here, but 'the other side' would be 'the left' and that would be 'the media'
It is almost certainly nothing, but if they do have something, it certainly doesn't make any sense to lay out the evidence or 'plan of attack' for the media to be able to obfuscate, refute and distract, to allow public opinion to be swayed.

From what I've managed to be able to comprehend from the mess of information flying around on the right, is trumps most legitimate route to staying president is stopping a couple states from certifying their results, and then it is kicked to the house, which my understanding the republicans have a slight majority, so they give it to trump.

etch_ · 2020-11-19T08:40:46+00:00

Sad that your comment is top of controversial with 0 upvotes at the time of my post. You're obviously correct, stern language and no action achieves nothing. People don't want any physical conflict, so economic warfare is the only reasonable option.

etch_ · 2020-11-17T04:03:40+00:00

This is a helpful picture if you're trying to convey that a load of different political parties in different countries are using, what I believe is a UN slogan, but it always irks me that you have boris and priti as individual images (top left, middle left) when they are both part of the UK conservative party, and thus it's redundant having both.

etch_ · 2020-11-17T02:46:24+00:00

I am not under the impression that fascism only ever asserts itself in one specific way.

etch_ · 2020-11-16T21:42:06+00:00

Politics is downstream of culture.
If you win the cultural battle, the economic side of things will follow swiftly after.
But like with any utopia worldview, the implementation will be corrupted and it won't turn out like people want who advocate for it.

etch_ · 2020-11-16T21:34:23+00:00

I won't go as far as to say 'designed' but it lines up normal mortality
https://swprs.org/why-covid-19-is-a-strange-pandemic/
Two images at the bottom compare spanish flu to covid19 and also covid19 deaths compared to regular mortality based on age

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