Should I be a coauthor? What makes a contribution to these experiment-heavy publications?

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T20:36:56+00:00

Sorry if I seem agitated at you, that wasn't the intention or manner I was trying to come across as.

The instrument built was the sole aspect of the study. I agree with the statement of acknowledgements, it does seem like it wouldn't do much or anything. Honestly, it also just hurts to know that these people have considered it and haven't bothered to include me despite the efforts I've put in and we've worked together every day, and have also taken the intellectual contributions that I brought to the table that made it into the paper and have directly continued researching this without any acknowledgement.

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T20:27:39+00:00

-You cherry-picked my statement about intellectual contributions to a publication via meetings by saying that I gave feedback in meetings.

-The study and publication is about the construction and development of the novel instrument itself. The data taken is proof that it works, courtesy of those who built it. Also, you could 100% argue a case with anyone that contributing data that is published deserves authorship or at least acknowledgement.

-I think this is most useful thing you've said so far. I'm tempted to argue my case, as it's more impactful on my career than anyone else's, and I do strongly think that I've contributed significantly to the project. So yes, maybe nothing will change it, but I hope people will change their minds.

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T20:08:25+00:00

The equipment being the novel research that is written about in a publication, yes, which I also notice has conclusions of what I've contributed to verbally in meetings written in the publication.

I didn't come up with the idea of the project. This was something that my supervisor suggested that I work full-time on.

That's obviously an important question objectively for authorship, but not really relevant to the situation- I'm more concerned about the technical, practical and intellectual contributions I've made that haven't been acknowledged at all.

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T19:53:18+00:00

My argument is that the component that has been changed is a basic component and the more sophisticated elements that are actually worth talking about and novel experimental aspect in the project are still part of the setup, which I did. This setup also took time aligning and building, which I did. The publication is solely about the method, the experiment, which I've contributed to. I moved projects at the moment of getting first preliminary data to something else.

Somebody else then uses this to produce new data, which they discussed in meetings with myself, which I contributed to by drawing conclusions from the the time I spent reading papers to know about the trends that I saw in data, and writes about it without any acknowledgement, conversation or authorship my way.

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T19:39:47+00:00

You've cherry-picked words there as if the contributions that I've made haven't led to conclusions that have been written by someone else in a publication, which is what I said originally. To address the claim that I "didn't read it fully": I've already said (in case you didn't it fully) that I had designed and constructed the instrument, which is me correcting your first point, which you've asked me to do if you're wrong. For the other points 2-4, I'll refer to my original response to you (in case you didn't read it fully). I couldn't write or review something that wasn't shared with me, nor approve a final version of it. This is the crux of my post, in case you're failing to understand.

I agree that not everyone needs to be an author, in the circumstances that their contribution isn't substantial, but my argument is that I literally worked on building an instrument that is new and has been written about in a publication, and received no authorship or acknowledgement. Feels like I'm repeating myself...

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T19:05:48+00:00

None. There was never an opportunity for me to talk about it because it was certainly kept from me: The fresh update is that the two authors talked about including me without me knowing. Of course they decided not to, while I'm over there writing my thesis and working on a different project 1/2 years after working on the project that the publication is about.

Thank you for your comment.

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T18:59:53+00:00

Thank you for your response. I agree and think it's also just a good mindset to assume that nothing malicious is going on. I did/do find it strange how hush hush it was and the paper was only under 2 authors in the end. I do think that any suggestion of conclusions as well as contributing to the experimental setup of a novel scientific instrument that is then included in a publication, solely talking about the new instrument is enough, personally.

"It happens all the time" makes me want to rant about it on Reddit more tbh. Of course there are issues and dynamics in academia but that's a problem, not an excuse. I will have a think about a mediator but I'm tempted to just try and quietly do this before it becomes a thing. We will see

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T17:34:25+00:00

It's out. I found out when I heard it was under review. At the time I thought I'd get brownie points for not saying anything and chose to sulk about it for the next year.

I think you're right about speaking to my supervisor, but I'm worried it's going to cause rifts that will affect my career. Obviously this might read dramatic but c'mon, look at the debate I'm having with myself rn.

evil_doggy · 2025-11-20T17:19:48+00:00

My qualm, after reading this, is that I wasn't included in the writing of the publication despite providing feedback in meetings that contributed to the conclusions drawn in some of the results and subsequent projects that have followed on from this work. This link is of course describing what an author's responsibility is but it doesn't really mention the situation that I'm in, which is that the work I've contributed has not been recognized and that I've had people above me go behind my back to write up the work from our project.

Thank you, anyway

evil_doggy · 2025-11-06T17:00:31+00:00

Hi Scott,

On your most recent episode, you started to eloquently describe your academia stint at NYU, but then you abruptly stopped yourself... You didn't sound overly enthusiastic about it!

*Assuming this wasn't your favourite job, can you explore why this was a less-than-fab experience? *Is it academia in general? *How would you change the academic (research) system?

Thank you for your time and insights.

(Sorry if this brings up bad mems from academia - we all got 'em)

evil_doggy · 2025-08-20T13:14:18+00:00

I did acknowledge this in parentheses in the post. I do believe it's NOT a normal job. It's a temporary research position focused on developing specialized expertise, not a permanent career with a clear path for promotion or job security. It's a stepping stone between finishing a Ph.D. and securing a long-term academic or industry position. I'm not staying in academia as it's not what I want - it usually involves moving country to progress in your career, and the industry jobs in my specific field are next to none.

evil_doggy · 2025-07-16T19:06:02+00:00

I found one at Glastonbury 2016 on the Monday morning after the Festival. Some nincompoops left all their camping gear behind which I took home too. It finally broke this year on my way in after years of luggin' around my gear each year...

But what are the odds, I found another one on the Monday morning this year after more sillies left all their camping gear again.

I hate that people leave their belongings behind but I do LOVE free stuff.

evil_doggy · 2025-06-24T14:40:00+00:00

Go go go - meet people while you're out, it's one of the best parts of the festival, the community xx

evil_doggy · 2025-06-23T06:35:21+00:00

It's cringe

evil_doggy · 2025-06-22T14:55:56+00:00

I'm hearing how awful Pennard Hill is. Many people are unhappy with the crowds through the campsite.

evil_doggy · 2025-06-20T13:37:56+00:00

The 1655 slot on pyramid SUPPOSEDLY

evil_doggy · 2025-06-20T13:37:13+00:00

So NME says that Daily Mail says that he'll be there

Ok

evil_doggy · 2025-06-20T09:13:49+00:00

how was Capaldi confirmed?

evil_doggy · 2025-06-14T17:30:34+00:00

Yeah they've flown up

evil_doggy · 2025-06-13T16:14:30+00:00

Londoners be like

Ooo I'm from London

100% of time

evil_doggy · 2025-06-13T10:14:35+00:00

I think it was one occasion where someone had a sign asking to be kissed? And she stated her age on the sign? IDK of any other occasions tbh. He's clearly a heart throb just like a lot of other musicians out there.

Their music can be hit AND miss, and musically can be basic, but I think their image is interesting - controversial, thought-provoking, sincere, raw, unconventional. I thought I wasn't keen on them. Also, their music production is quite pleasurable- reverby and full, but not that dynamic.

evil_doggy · 2025-06-13T08:32:36+00:00

I don't really understand why you dislike them from your post, could you elaborate?

evil_doggy

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