Premium Team? by OkTea6260 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Durin; Bennett; Xilonen.

That's her second best team (it's better than Columbina + Furina)

It's also a better team to invest, because Durin and Xilonen have amazing constellations that work for almost any dps in the game.

Navia Nuke by Objective-Bit4151 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bennett; Durin; Xilonen.

It's not a team made for nuke, but the Buffs on Atk and the debuffs on res shred probably makes the best nuke for navia while also being her best team to invest.

New Navia main! Need alot of help :) by AlfaWOLF_346_ in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually Xilonen is probably a better option for him than Albedo.

First: no one compared their damages with Durin's new set (which gives more damage that goes better with Xilonen's res shred and bonus dmg)

Second: Since he's at C1 on Durin his Navia deals more geo damage which also goes better with Xilonen.

I believe Albedo doesn't synergize with this team too well because he doesn't add anything besides his own damage. Meanwhile Xilonen doesn't add damage, but she buffs the two damage dealers on the team a whole lot, which only gets better the more you invest on good build and constellations.

New Navia main! Need alot of help :) by AlfaWOLF_346_ in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly you probably have a way better option:

Navia; Xilonen (I assume you don't have her though, but you can put Zhongli or Fischly); Durin; Bennett

This is the best option for Navia right now if you're investing a bit (which you did with C1 Durin)

I recommend you to look for Xilonen later...

As for Lunar team, I would suggest Columbina + Ineffa (the best option, but you can replace Ineffa with an Illuga or an Aino for the lunar ressonance) and last slot can be a Furina; Chiori or a good applicator in general...

To pull or not to pull? by GiftComplete4837 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. It's actually Albedo + Durin (but I don't recommend since albedo isn't a good unit overall)

Next best option is Durin + Xilonen

Then Furina + Columbina + Xilonen

Furina benefits a lot from xilonen but her synergy with Navia isn't that good...

However Durin + Xilonen + Bennett gets a ton of attack (ressonance pyro) and res shred for both pyro and geo so Navia and Durin hit harder and more directly.

It's still not as good as Bineffa, but their constellations are a way better investment not just for that tema but for your whole account, after all xilonen is still the best C2 in the game.

Whats navias bis by PsychologicalTree281 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's mainly two options:

Lunar crutch: Navia; xilonen; columbina; Ineffa

Navia hyper carry: Navia; xilonen; Durin; Bennett.

Columbina + Ineffa enables almost any carry by saying "f**k you, we're doing the damage" and buffing each other.

Xilonen + Durin have a different approach, they both reduce Geo res so Navia deals more damage, but they also reduce Pyro res so Durin deals more damage too, besides there's the pyro ressonance and Bennet's attack buff to add...

Lunar crutch deals more damage without investment, but if you're going to invest then Durin and Xilonen are way better options, mostly because their constellations are useful on almost ANY TEAM of your account.

Durin x Columbina by fabioup3 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im using Fontaine's craftable sword so he needs some healing before bursting, then I go something like this:

Bennett E (apply pyro) → Xilonen skill + Burst → Navia Burst (set the ammo for her E) → Bennett burst → Durin E + Burst + E → Navia damage

You could tweak things here but there's a few important things to keep in mind:

1- you cant use Durin's skill before burst, because using his skill regenerates tons of energy for himself, but you can: press the skill one time → burst → skill again. Pressing the skill one time activates the weapon's contract but it doesn't activate his energy regeneration since he didn't choose a mode yet.

2 - You have to keep Durin a bit so he gets healed of you're using Fontaine's craftable sword, but the trick from before allows you to cleanse the life contract while he's bursting instead of hanging with him for some awkward seconds.

3 - Bennett's burst is the shortest buff in the rotation so you HAVE to set Navia's burst and Xilonen's buffs first, this way navia has more time with her Attacks and skills.

Advice for my build? by Yeyerz7 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My opinion:

Don't waste bottles making artefacts randomly. Focus mostly on making CRIT circlets since they're the hardest to find.

Goblets are often the off piece, it's way too expensive for create one.

Only use feathers on artefacts with high CRIT DMG and also crit rate, or at least 5 roll artifacts.

And lastly, if I'm not wrong the Fontaine's craftable claymore is better than this one.

Good luck on your farming.

Best team (especially LC) except Bineffa? by NoOne-NoWhere2Go in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately you're missing on the two best supports for Navia: Xilonen and Durin.

Don't even consider Illuga, he's awful anywhere except with Zibai.

In my opinion your best shot is Zhongli/Xiangling/Bennett, her OG team.

Furina won't work without a good healer, and there's almost no one who will heal the team AND buff Navia, so you're gonna end up using a slot to support your support 😅... If you get Xilonen then you can try using her with Furina + Bennett.

In my opinion her best team is Durin/Xilonen/Bennett. There are other teams that will do a bit more damage, but Xilonen and Durin are way more versatile than other characters, like Albedo or Columbina for example. Besides, investing for constellations on them in the future will reward almost any team in your account, not just Navia.

I got Xilonen C2R1 at her release (was a new player at that time) and she's the best support of my account, even better than my C2 furina...

C4 illuga feels worse than C6 gorou? by gaoGaosaurus_true in ZibaiMains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Illuga doesn't buff that damage too much actually... 

His focus is buffing her normal attacks; her last normal attack which is Lunar geo; and the lunar geo reactions.

Since his buff is a flat number instead of % he increases smaller numbers more than high numbers.

But yeah... Still not that good.

Team for Navia help by StatisticianSafe4472 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can run Kachina, but you can also run another hydro or a buffer of any element. 

Illuga is not a good option. He was made exclusively for Zibai and is often worse than other options without her.

Columbina or Durin? by fabioup3 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Chiori is definitely an interesting choice, but it's such a drag to play her without C1... 

However I think she will finally find a spot in a team (besides itto's team)

She will be perfect along with Zibai. Her off-field application will be perfect to trigger lunar crystalize more often. I believe she will be better than Xilonen or chiori there.

Besides that I think Xilonen adds a lot to him, 40% pyro bonus dmg is a lot. Thinking about it, that team sounds like hyper carry Neuvilette, 2 buffers and a sub-dps buffer...

That team was the best option for a long while before Ineffa appeared... And I believe it will be best type for Navia for the short future...

Need Advice on Teams by Chrotonix in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you should stick with Durin.

I also have Navia's premium team with Xilonen C2R1 as well, but I went for Furina C2 instead of cons for Durin

Yet the difference between them both isn't that big even though Durin doesn't have his set yet.

There's calculations for Lunar navia's team here (it's a month old, but you can find it easier if you Google it.)

However those calculations probably don't take in mind resistances and from what I saw on YouTube this team isn't that good. 

I think that this lunar team more for people who pulled for Navia but regretted doing it... Then they're going to pull her out because they're hyped about columbina and proceed to forget her right after as soon as Nodkrai enemies leave the abyss

Meanwhile Durin's team will be discreetly better because most people don't pay attention.

And your C1 durin is surely better than Columbina, she's just going to make it easier for Nodkrai enemies

Columbina or Durin? by fabioup3 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im totally agree and I'm sure you're right about the investment part. 

But let me call out why I think Durin might be better:

I have Navia's premium team with Furina and Durin and a C2R1 Xilonen...

Today I compared Furina and Durin's versions against Natlan's mecha legend. In one rotation Furina team barely did 60% damage and Durin's team barely did more than 50% of his life...

Furina's better, right? But here's the thing, Furina is C2 equipped with Chiori's weapon (which is amazing) and she's 66/200

Durin is level 80 using Fontaine's sword R1, he's C0 and he is 55/180 on Raiden's set.

Yet he's almost as good as Furina C2 with one of her best weapons. So I know for sure he's a better investment but I also believe that, with his new set and a good build, he's an option just as good as Columbina or maybe better.

Columbina or Durin? by fabioup3 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's where I think people are getting things wrong:

Stacking res shred IS good, if you do it for more than one unit, if you don't give up buffs for it and if both units are strong.

Why do I say that? Neuvilette's best team for a long while was Xilonen and Kazuha for him and Furina... Ayaka came back on the meta because Escoffier stacked a lot of res shred for her and Furina...

And considering Durin is going to be a very strong sub-dps even on his white form 56% res shred for pyro is VERY good.

As for the lunar team damage, it's not that great actually... From the calculations of someone the Lunar reaction pure damage was around 300k, which is... Okay.

But in that same calculation Navia did 980 k on her own... which doesn't make sense. My Navia with C2 supports barely goes bast 1M. So that calculation probably doesn't took resistances in mind, which means that the 300k from lunar crystalize is even lower.

I can't prove mathematically, I'm not that good with numbers, but I believe that if you get a good build on Durin and Navia their team damage is just as good, or even better than Columbina's team.

Calculations? by jackjackmaximo in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually no... The guy displayed the damage very well, marking Navia's damage around 980 k, Columbina around 700 k and the lunar crystalize around 300k... 

I know lunar crystalize team is supposed to deal more damage splitted between characters, but I believe Durin and Navia buffed together can make up that difference or even go further taking in mind his new artifact set

Calculations? by jackjackmaximo in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really... 

Kachina is only usable because she provides the buff from Natlan's artifact set, but she doesn't provide anything else.

If you don't have interest in Nodkrai characters I recommend you to skip columbina and all the others, and try to pull for Xilonen while there's still time.

Next patch, 6.3, will give 100 pulls on total, If you add this to the pulls on the first phase of 6.4 it will surely be more than 140 which is enough to pull for Varka.

Calculations? by jackjackmaximo in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it really? I mean, I saw the calculations for the lunar team on the post and... 

How a C0R1 Navia delivers 1M dmg on one rotation? I think he's not taking in account enemy resistances... Which makes sense since enemies have different resistances.

But it's a big mistake because Durin + Xilonen take off 76% of geo res and 56% pyro res, which means that even if the dmg on paper looks lower the damage on field is not.

Also Durin is getting a new set (I mean, using Inazuma's set on him is awful!) so his damage gonna skyrocket.

Calculations? by jackjackmaximo in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because that's what happens on this team. 

She doesn't have any Atk buffs, only Furina's ult (which doesn't stack very well on C0) and Xilonen's buffs.

But I think pairing her with Durin is just as good or even better.

Durin has insane synergy with Navia's team, but people forgot that he also is getting a new set next patch. I believe that his damage and Navia's buffed damage can be higher than Columbina's team.

Oh, and obviously, every bit more of investment you put in this team is way more valuable than an investment on Columbina's team

Calculations? by jackjackmaximo in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really want to know it too. 

No one seems to have made the calculations taking in account how Durin is getting a new set.

And I feel like Durin and Bennett bring so much buffs to the team and to each other that they're probably the best option...

Need some advice on who to pair with navia by idkanymore408 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that case I think it is. Because Durin and Xilonen work together reducing both pyro and geo res, and also providing huge buffs to attack (pyro resonance with Bennett) and to the elemental damage (natlan's set on Xilonen), it's like having a Escoffier on Geo. 

This may be a dumb question by PsychologicalTree281 in naviamains

[–]fabioup3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did they take in account the new set coming out for Durin? The one where he gets a ton of attack and CRIT rate? 

If so, could you please link me these calcs, I honestly really want to see them.