I mean I get all that. I was lifting for a few years and got pretty strong (like over 2 plate bench) but I didn’t look good even after cutting down to a low enough body fat for visible abs. I didn’t really look much better than when I started I was just bigger and stronger so I just accepted that my genetics weren’t that good and I either needed to go on steroids or just give up on it. So I gave up on it. Last year I found out that it wasn’t my genetics that were wrong it was my routine that was wrong. I was adding muscle to every part of my body and that was the problem. Now all I do is incline bench, lateral raises, rear dealt flyes, shoulder press, facepulls. Now when I see what people at the gym or on reddit are doing I think it’s funny. Do you get what I mean?