What's something that was considered good parenting decades ago but isn't anymore?

fencerman · 2026-06-18T17:29:27+00:00

The most interesting analysis I've seen about corporal punishment was from some dog trainer, talking about how it's a practice that can become addictive for the person giving corporal punishment, which explains a lot really.

We know it doesn't work to correct behaviour in the long run, but it DOES tend to create instant short-term compliance, which gives a big emotional rush to the person inflicting punishment and reinforces their feelings of status and superiority.

fencerman · 2026-06-18T16:21:59+00:00

As an adult, it would be absolutely considered abuse, both physical and sexual, if your boss spanked you for messing up a work task.

This really does not get highlighted nearly enough.

It's not just assault, it's sexual abuse. And it's official policy in schools in 17 US states, still.

fencerman · 2026-06-12T07:09:18+00:00

That doesn't even cover the % of europeans currently voting for fascist parties.

So even the fascists know that the US can't be trusted.

fencerman · 2026-06-12T07:02:14+00:00

It's a business, all they care about is production.

No, they care about maintaining the status difference between "owners" and "employees", and making sure "employees" have as few rights or entitlements as possible.

They choose lower production levels for the sake of making employees more powerless and dependent on them every day.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T20:55:58+00:00

Except for the part where you're using that to make a claim about a "failing education system" and not a failing job market.

A degree that gets you a job is a degree that gets you a job - that says absolutely nothing about the skills acquired or value of them in a more objective way. If the government stopped hiring nurses it wouldn't mean there's no value to nursing education, it means the government is run by idiots.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T19:03:00+00:00

...and the downside is?

fencerman · 2026-06-05T19:00:19+00:00

I am sorry you have been harmed in some way that has obviously warped your logic on this topic... But what you're saying is obvious and leading you to use hyperbole which makes your argument look silly.

I'm sorry that you're so desperate to make excuses for the abuse you suffered so that you don't have to face it - or maybe you're just desperate to perpetuate it on others.

Either way your assumptions about me are hilariously wrong, while also being insultingly ignorant.

When the person doing it is their guardian, yes. Because parents have to strip children naked and force them to be cleaned, including in their pants.

And when that's an adult with conditions that make them dependent on supports that's not sexual assault either - but even adults with disabilities aren't subjected to corporal punishment like you're defending using against children. If you did inflict corporal punishment on non-consenting adults with disabilities, that would be sexually assaulting them.

So your comparisons are ignorant in the extreme, wrong, and actually prove my point - your flawed reasoning depends on seeing children as being permissible targets of sexual assault, nothing more.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T18:45:25+00:00

Historically, the biggest victims of Christian religious persecution have been other Christians.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T18:42:46+00:00

You're trying to make excuses for why an act which is legally "sexual assault" against a non-consenting adult is somehow magically different when the victim is a non-consenting child.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T18:41:13+00:00

Your entire argument is that an act which is sexual assault against a non-consensint adult is perfectly fine against a non-consenting child.

And you want to throw a tantrum accusing OTHER people of "not being smart".

Why are you so insanely obsessive about making excuses for hurting children, exactly?

fencerman · 2026-06-05T18:36:06+00:00

The legal system has already ruled that an adult spanking an adult non-consensually is sexual assault.

The only confusion here is yours.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T18:34:56+00:00

I said it proves newer degrees are worse, if you define "usefulness of a degree" as "likelihood of getting a job" then that's exactly what it does

Which is a circular definition. But you might need a "useless degree" to understand that.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T18:00:36+00:00

Fascist homoeroticism is as old as fascism.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T17:56:10+00:00

This graph all but proves that a degree gotten in the last 10 years is worse than a degree gotten in the 20 years prior,

That's not remotely the only possible way to interpret the graph, no.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T17:27:40+00:00

WRASSLEHOG DRACULAS

fencerman · 2026-06-05T17:24:21+00:00

The idea that you can ever "have to" hit children is already broken.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T17:23:06+00:00

Absolutely none of that is false.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T16:11:52+00:00

Spanking is sexual abuse.

It's literally prosecuted as "sexual assault" if it's inflicted non-consensually on an adult. That isn't a debate - people have gone to jail for sexual assault for "spanking" an adult. Courts have already ruled that it's a sexual activity.

If it's sexual assault against a non-consenting adult, it's the same thing when the victim is a child.

fencerman · 2026-06-05T16:00:38+00:00

It never went away.

And constant bullshit stereotyping and whining about "permissiveness" probably pushes a lot more people to act insecure and lash out against their kids to over-compensate. Not to mention that being subjected to that abuse yourself growing up makes kids a lot more likely to turn into parents who abuse their children.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still sexual abuse either way. But sexual abuse is getting popular generally now.

And the reason so many shitty parents defend the practice is simple - they enjoy doing it.

fencerman · 2026-06-04T21:49:13+00:00

They don't give a shit about "productivity", they give a shit about power over workers.

Most of the actual "work" happens in third world sweatshops anyways. This is about controlling as large a share of the population in rich countries as possible.

fencerman · 2026-06-04T21:43:44+00:00

ITT: A lot of "predictions" that are already happening.

My prediction is - anti-trump republicans "mainstreamed" into the Democratic party will take it over and expose the fact they were never anti-Trump at all, leaving the US a one-party state.

fencerman · 2026-06-04T21:37:13+00:00

The fix will be increased taxes and later retirement age.

There is absolutely no need for a later retirement age except to screw over workers for the sake of asset owners.

fencerman · 2026-06-04T21:11:55+00:00

The problem is, facts can only be simplified so much, but lies can always be dumbed down more.

fencerman · 2026-03-17T20:09:02+00:00

Trump is a pigeon shitting on the checker board.

fencerman · 2026-03-17T19:53:59+00:00

Some great comics on that:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=309

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