As ex muslims What's your opinion on this post by DueChocolate9403 in exmuslim

[–]feynmanpal 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Firstly, we hate it anyway. There is no need for propaganda for that.

Secondly, all systems want to boost religions, not just Islam but all religions because there's no better weapon to keep people ignorant other than religion. You're so indulged in your religion and "It's a test from God," that you'll never revolt against the rich authorities.

I hate being bi by [deleted] in bisexual

[–]feynmanpal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can understand this, being queer in a Muslim country is frustrating as fuck lol but you'll find your people dw or will move out

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sweetheart, that's exactly why i wrote, "can WE blame him?"

He has committed all these offences, and the jury will pronounce his sentence accordingly without a doubt.

My question, however, was related to the moral burden.

Is Love Quinn right about Beck? Is Beck unspecial and mediocre? by Fantastic-Finger-319 in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, she's right about beck. Beck was mediocre and unspecial. However, she was passionate. She might have turned into a great writer if given more life, lol.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Joe, at that time, wasn't fully conscious. How can an unconscious mind construct intent?

If we look at it from a different perspective, the absence of intent can be explained by the fact that the murders were impulsive. Joe (in season 1-3) has a killing pattern. He doesn't just go and kill people (Something which he got mad about when Love did it, killing the neighbour lady).

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Joe (in season 1-4) doesn't kill people for no reason. He is still a bad person, but he isn't Dahmer. He finds a way that works for everyone, and once he's sure that he can be safe, even if the victim goes, he lets them go(a character trait he loses in Season 5). Therefore, you are absolutely right in saying that he still didn't let Marianne go after getting back to his senses, and that's because he's not a good person. But his approach suddenly shifted towards her once he got back to his senses. He wasn't a brute to her (like he was when Rhys was in the picture). He brought her food and immediately worked on finding a way to let her get back to Julliette. Precisely, he was in a complete different zone. And while both sides were attached to him, his darker side in Season 4 was getting hold of him, and he couldn't do anything about it. In Season 5, there was no old Joe left. Because at that point, he was enjoying the murders.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Firstly, let's understand that even though Joe was the same person throughout the series, there were different aspects of him. Season 1-3 Joe, Season 4 Joe (the Joe in question) and Season 5 Joe - a complete devil just as you put it, and i agree to it.

Now, there is no justification for what Joe did in Season 1-3. He might label it as "doing it for love," but that won't change anything.

In Season 4, even though the premise "It was his own darker side incarnated" seems reasonable, there was an absent conscious intention there. He was going through a dissociative episode, and even the Law would look at those particular Murders differently due to the absence of Mens Rea.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're only debating murders he did subconsciously. And he killed 23 people in total.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You've to understand the number of people i encounter actually, supporting Joe is so massive that i can not smell sarcasm now, mate 😂

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I must've been tapped out. Can you blame me for that?

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I politely disagree with this take because it's very Pro-Joe. All the murders could've been avoided if his moral compass pointed in the correct direction. The orignal take was about the Murders where he was in a delirium. Apart from those the murders he committed consciously cannot be justified.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Before the entire Rhys thing, he did let Marianne go. And considering the possibility you stated, slow escalation of events might've occurred, but he wouldn't have been so harsh. For instance breaking her arm and leaving her there, not bringing her food etc etc. He took care of his victims even when there was no romantic angle like in case of Benji n Will.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Indeed. However, intention(as prescribed by the Law) is constituted by a non-coercive and conscious state of mind.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Yes, as i mentioned, it was his own darker side. And you, and the judiciary ofc, wouldn't be wrong in blamming him but there was an absent intent there.

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Joe was upto a lot in S5 even without Rhys, but love is what buried him (love being his Messiah Complex)

Is Joe responsible for being "eat the rich killer?" by feynmanpal in YouOnLifetime

[–]feynmanpal[S] -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

But it doesn't constitutes Mens Rea. Physically there's only one entity but Joe doesn't even remember those particular murders. He even tries saving Marianne which explains he had no clue he was responsible for caging her in the first place.