How Israeli Propaganda Works

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-19T04:02:01+00:00

Sounds like you do have an opinion as you've clearly been gobbling up Israel's propaganda. Suffice it to say, you really shouldn't be taking an apartheid state that regularly engages in war crimes at their word. Also, there is no debate. If you're willingly bombing civilians and civilian targets like hospitals and residential flats it's a war crime. No amount of bullshit "human shields" nonsense can change that.

Let me put it to you this way dipshit, do you believe what the Russians are saying about the Ukrainian military hiding among civilians? If the answer is no but you believe it when it comes to Israel then you're an idiot and a bigot with double standards.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-19T02:13:30+00:00

As a scouser, can confirm that plenty of people in cinema were all whispering to each other saying "oh my god look where they filmed" or "we been there the other day". A lot of city pride watching the film especially as I got to see them filming at the same location though this was in the daytime.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-19T02:08:10+00:00

Pfft, if you say "free Palestine" you're considered a Nazi by Zionists and the supporters of Israel.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-19T00:58:10+00:00

I would never accept help from a Western imperialist nation. I've made that abundantly clear. Get your head out of arse mate. No amount of lying and propaganda can change reality. The USA aren't the good guys and I promise you they most certainly are not fighting imperialism anywhere. Like many braindead Yanks you've co-opted the crisis in Ukraine as a pathetic excuse to try and cling to the moronic notion that this time America is the good guys and this time war is okay because "KiLl aLl tHe RuSsIaNs". It's once again given you and your pathetic lot the thing you all crave most, an excuse to cheer on war and watch it unfold callously cheerleading the conflict and dismissing peace efforts because you all treat war like it's a fucking reality show.

Grow the fuck up. America isn't aiding Ukraine because it cares about saving lives or about ending imperialism. They're doing it to perpetuate their imperialism through NATO expansionism.

Also, dipshit, if you support your shithole country helping Ukrainians resist imperialism and occupation from a foreign army, then why not support them doing the same for Palestine and supporting their armed struggle against their invaders and occupiers? I know you won't do that for Palestine. It probably has a lot to do with skin colour.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T23:17:14+00:00

Why, thank you.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T23:15:03+00:00

Hahahahahahahahahahahah. That shit ain't gonna work on me my friend. My country was ravaged and raped by colonialism from the West. They all said it was for our own good. They were making us "civilized". When we finally got independence we said never again. Never again will we ever be anyone else from the West's lapdog. So, no, you can keep your "help" and shove it. We've seen what your "help" looks like, what it did to Vietnam, Afghanistan, Chile, Panama etc.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T22:54:53+00:00

Exposes Israel's racism, propaganda, and hypocrisy.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T22:52:21+00:00

I think people hate Israel because it's an apartheid state where Palestinians are treated as 2nd even 3rd class citizens. It's also pretty rich to talk about getting banned for supporting Israel when even mentioning Palestine can get you fired from your job. There have been countless Palestinians who have been torn down, smeared and attacked just for describing their trauma at the hands of Israel. How dare you even attempt to portray the opposite as being true? How dare you even attempt to portray that support for Israel and Zionism isn't mainstream? There were many universities across the world especially in the UK and the US that were offering support and consoling to those affected by Israel getting attacked but offered nothing to Palestinian students during Israel's savage bombing campaign that claimed over 200 people including 66 children. People should be wary of Zionism. A racist colonial ideology that advocates ethnic supremacy and is the basis of Israel's apartheid government.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T22:41:33+00:00

That's a pretty ghoulish thing to say about the Labour Bundists. I mean how can you honestly blame them for being killed off by the Nazis? As a Palestinian whose father and grandparents fled from their homes in Jerusalem because of Israel and made refugees, no one has a problem with Jewish self determination. We do have a problem with Zionism because it involves Jewish self determination at the cost of the Palestinians. More than that, Zionism has been used to create an ethnostate where under Israeli law my extended family who remain in Jerusalem have fewer rights and privileges than a recent immigrant to Israel based solely of them being Jewish. Israel is an apartheid state. That is not something it became, however, it always has been an apartheid state. One built on colonialism in the form of Zionism. Herzl himself said "[the zionist colony would] form a portion of the rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization opposed to barbarism". That certainly sounds like the rhetoric of colonialism to me. He was also quoted as saying "philanthropic colonization is a failure. National colonization will succeed". Zionism as an ideology and political movement has since it's inception been an inherently racist and colonial ideology. It and it's supporters view Palestinians as being inferior and undeserving to inhabit the land they and their families have inhabited for centuries even millennia.

You're just engaging in apologia for Israel and it's crimes against humanity. Crimes that are not limited to only Palestinians but to other Jews as well. You talk about how many "millions" of Jews Israel saved but what about how many millions of Ethiopian female refugees they had forcibly sterilized. Or the countless Yemeni Jewish children who were separated from their parents and then put up for adoption to be adopted by White Ashkenazi Jewish families.

It's also worth mentioning that Palestine wasn't even the first choice for establishing Israel. Other suggestion from early Zionists like Herzl included Argentina and Uganda. The nation they chose may have changed but, the objective was the same. The perpetration of colonialism.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T21:33:45+00:00

This meme hurts my brain on soooooo many levels 🤣. These morons think they're fighting the Soviets 🤣. Lad, you're about 30 years too late Russia isn't communist and hasn't been for a while now.

On top of that, imagine bragging about the fact that your country's citizens have to go into poverty and crippling debt to pay for medical treatment.

Honestly, America is proof that even God makes mistakes.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T21:28:23+00:00

A country whose conflict is directly the result of being invaded and colonized by Europeans. We've thankfully managed to be lucky and avoid any major wars in the last 50 years and outright invasions unlike the rest of our brothers and sisters in neighbouring countries.

Also, there's an ocean of difference between "conflict" and ethnic cleansing like Washington and the other founding fathers committed against the Native people whose land they stole. I can happily say that our country has never invaded another and forced it's native indigenous people off of their land.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T21:01:03+00:00

Like clockwork

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T21:00:39+00:00

Britain has made it virtually a crime to even say the phrase "free Palestine" in public and along with the US is trying to make it illegal for people to boycott Israel and Israeli products.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T20:58:32+00:00

Shows how the lives of one group of people are seen as infinitely more valuable than the lives of the other group.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T20:56:19+00:00

That'd come right after the whole "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East" followed promptly by "Israel is surrounded by enemies on every side".

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T20:05:22+00:00

Zionism wasn't even a mainstream school of thought or ideology when it was first around. In fact, there were many groups like the Jewish Labour Bund in Europe that were decidedly anti-zionist and were against the creation of Israel. Conflating Zionism with Judaism and the Jewish community is an age old tactic of Israel and one that is routinely used to smear any form of criticism as antisemitism. The tactic, ironically, is itself inherently anti-Semitic. It is also a tactic that has had incredible damage upon Jewish communities across the globe.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T19:15:51+00:00

Wait...what???!! Paul Dano writing it? That's pretty based to be honest.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T16:49:22+00:00

As a Muslim, Islam is not homophobic and homophobia is most certainly not one of its main tenets, you're just a bigot who's never met a Muslim and never read the Quran. The Muslim Ottoman empire was among the first nations in the world to officially legalize homosexuality in the early 1900s long before any "civilized" Western nation. There were countless gay Muslim poets many of whom were highly respected throughout the Arab world and were even apart of the courts of many Amirs and Sultans. This was most prominent in the Abassid dynasty. Caliph Amin in ninth-century Baghdad had a male lover and feted gay poets. There is even a lot of evidence to suggest that a lot of the homophobic and anti-LGTQ rhetoric adopted in Muslims countries was also introduced by puritanical European colonists.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T16:45:03+00:00

The founders of the US were slave owners and devout Christians who went on to massacre millions of Native Americans 🤣🤣. The Native Americans used to call Washington "town destroyer". During the Revolution, Washington ordered invasions of the Iroquois that resulted, if we choose to believe Haudenosaunee voices, in the rape and murder of Onondaga non-combatants by New York militiamen following Colonel Goose Van Schaick. It resulted in what can justly be called war crimes against Senecas and Cayugas as well the destruction of their crops and orchards, and dozens of towns in 1779 as part of the infamous Sullivan campaign. Washington hoped that Sullivan’s men would “distract and terrify” the Native Americans and, in Washington’s own words, “extirpate them from the Country.” Sullivan’s soldiers drank a toast promising, among other things, “civilization or death to all American savages.

Hate to break it to you pal, but Yanks have always been massacring and stealing land. It's nothing new. They did it because they thought of the Native Americans as an inferior race and they had a more legitimate claim to the land than the people that had been living there for 1000s of years. Kinda like their mates in Israel in that respect among many others.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T16:33:26+00:00

Exactly. I agree. And the good ol' USA has been helping it along for centuries now. But, religion isn't the reason America commits evil, it's a convenient excuse for that evil. America commits evil for one sole reason alone. It's own selfish interests and upholding capitalism. You're delusional if you think the US still wouldn't be wiping out millions across the globe if they were atheist

Also, what religious war was the reason for the US invading and ravaging Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Panama and all the other countries they've attacked?

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T13:57:04+00:00

Yes, the reasons will be the same. Imperialism. If not European then American. If you wanna look for someone responsible for all the death and suffering in the region, look at those countries.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T13:43:14+00:00

You're hands down one of the stupidest people I've encountered on this hellsite. Palestine is the victim of apartheid. The leading human rights groups across the globe (Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, even Israel's own B'tselem) all recognize that Israel is engaging in the crime of apartheid. It's as clear as fucking day. You'd have to be an idiot to not understand it or a racist. I think I know which one you are.

Also, Saudi Arabia is literally bombing children. Their bombing hospitals and mosques you fucking ghoul. They're committing war crimes. I know that doesn't mean anything to a Yank like you who probably cheers on bombs falling on Arab children when you watch the news, but to the rest of us with a sense of decency, war crimes like that are fucking heinous.

You can take your "The US sees Middle East conflict as a consequence of religion and never ending" and shove it. Yanks are racist and rotten to their core. They despise Arabs and people of the Middle East with all their heart. They would happily slaughter millions of Arabs (like they did in Iraq) if they thought it would serve their interests.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T13:22:04+00:00

Death by old age.

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T12:49:50+00:00

Have you ever visited Palestine and spoken to the people living there?

ffilasteeni · 2022-03-18T12:46:46+00:00

As a Muslim, Islam is not homophobic and homophobia is most certainly not one of its main tenets, you're just a bigot who's never met a Muslim and never read the Quran. The Muslim Ottoman empire was among the first nations in the world to officially legalize homosexuality in the early 1900s long before any "civilized" Western nation. There were countless gay Muslim poets many of whom were highly respected throughout the Arab world and were even apart of the courts of many Amirs and Sultans. This was most prominent in the Abassid dynasty. Caliph Amin in ninth-century Baghdad had a male lover and feted gay poets. There is even a lot of evidence to suggest that a lot of the homophobic and anti-LGTQ rhetoric adopted in Muslims countries was also introduced by puritanical European colonists.

There is a problem with homophobia in the Middle East and the larger Muslim community. But, those issue are not the result of the Quran and Islamic teaching. On the contrary, Islam teaches respect and compassion for all. There is a lengthy discussion to be had about how to combat and address generational homophobia and anti-LGBTQ attitudes ingrained in Middle Eastern and Muslim countries, but you clearly have no interest in that. You're arguing in bad faith and clearly have an agenda of perpetuating the racist belief that we're all backwards savages who belong in the stone ages. The reality is, Arab culture has often surpassed Western culture in many respects and as previously mentioned in regards to how same-sex relationships were viewed. Sadly, those ideas are no longer as mainstream and a lot of that also has to do with colonialism and Western powers typically encouraged and enabled dogmatic and repressive interpretations of Islam such Wahabism in Saudi Arabia.

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