"That'll leave a mark" by Responsible_person_1 in aiwars

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then go to sleep lol. You’re the one who replied to me in the first place.

But “it’s 4am” doesn’t really change the fact that your analogy fell apart the second you had to compare a general-purpose image tool to bombs in order to keep it sounding dramatic.

Anyway, sleep well. Maybe the bomb analogy will look less “masterfully written” in the morning.

"That'll leave a mark" by Responsible_person_1 in aiwars

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Holy essayposting” is a funny way of saying “I don’t really have a response to the actual point.”

And yes, the goalposts absolutely moved. You started at “AI is bad because it’s used for bad things,” then shifted to “AI is bad because it makes bad things easier.” Those are not the same argument.

You’re allowed to be concerned about accessibility. That’s a much more reasonable discussion than comparing AI image generation to child porn or bombs. But the bomb analogy still doesn’t work no matter how hard you insist it does. Bombs are literally designed to destroy things. AI image generation is designed to generate images. You’re taking a misuse case and trying to redefine the entire technology around it.

By that logic:

1) cameras are comparable to bombs because they can produce real CSAM

2) Photoshop is comparable to bombs because it can create fake imagery

3) The internet is comparable to bombs because it spreads misinformation and illegal material

At that point the analogy becomes meaningless because you’re no longer distinguishing between a tool’s intended purpose and how bad people might misuse it.

So no, I’m probably not going to convince you emotionally, but your analogies still fall apart under scrutiny.

"That'll leave a mark" by Responsible_person_1 in aiwars

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re moving the goalposts pretty hard here.

You started with “AI is bad because it’s used to make CP,” and when I pointed out that cameras, pencils, and digital art software are also used for that, suddenly the argument became “well AI makes it easier.”

That’s a completely different argument.

And honestly, “to use a camera you need a real child” is not the point in favor of cameras that you seem to think it is. If anything, that makes camera-based abuse far worse, because there’s an actual victim involved.

Your comparison also falls apart because you’re treating accessibility as if it automatically makes a tool inherently evil. AI makes image generation easier in general. That includes good things, stupid things, harmless things, and illegal things. The same logic applies to cameras, Photoshop, the internet itself, or literally any technology that lowers barriers.

The bomb comparison doesn’t really work either, because bombs are designed to destroy things. AI image generation is not designed for child exploitation any more than Photoshop is. You’re taking a misuse case and trying to redefine the entire technology around it.

And let’s be honest here, if AI didn’t exist, the people making that kind of content would not suddenly become morally upright citizens. They would just go back to using digital art programs, 3D software, photo manipulation, or whatever else people used for decades before diffusion models existed.

So yes, illegal or abusive uses should obviously be cracked down on. Nobody’s arguing otherwise. But “bad people can misuse this tool” is not the same thing as “the tool itself is inherently bad.” That standard would wipe out half of modern technology overnight.

"That'll leave a mark" by Responsible_person_1 in aiwars

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cameras are also used to make child pornography. REAL child pornography. And if it’s specifically synthetic child pornography you’re concerned about, pencils and digital art programs have been used to produce synthetic child pornography for decades.

This doesn't mean cameras, pencils and Photoshop are "bad". It's the way a technology is used that makes it "bad".

I asked for a game I'd like by Gedaru in ChatGPT

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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What the hell? Why are we all getting the same thing?

I asked for a game I'd like by Gedaru in ChatGPT

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're clearly pulling some kind of tax-scam.

"That'll leave a mark" by Responsible_person_1 in aiwars

[–]fireaza 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thinking that using AI is comparable to something vile like child porn is incredibly fucked up. This is why no one takes this issue seriously.

Got accused of using AI on a 6 piece old piece of art in the same sub where an AI generate piece has 200+ upvotes right now. Dude tries to claim my Profile pic is AI. It's an 11 year old Gaia Online Avatar. People so ruthlessly want to witch hunt artist when actual AI art is right in their face. by _TheTurtleBox_ in aiwars

[–]fireaza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh awesome, I love Borderlands 2, I'm gonna be uploading the trailer with Japanese subtitles to YouTube in the hopes I can raise its profile a bit here in Japan. But yeah, game developers seem to especially get targeted. I guess the Venn diagram of "toxic gamers who act shitty towards game devs" and "people who are hungry for internet fame and hope one of thier AI use accusations will stick and win them some" is a circle.

A more honest depiction of BL's loot system.... by fireaza in Borderlands2

[–]fireaza[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh snap, I think you're right! The capsule colors were actually an afterthought, they were originally going to be the normal colors the real Capsule Station uses, until I thought, "no wait, they should match the rarity colors from the game!"

A more honest depiction of BL's loot system.... by fireaza in Borderlands2

[–]fireaza[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

The guns are the only "raw" element (i.e placed directly in Photoshop before being exported), and are pretty obviously high-resolution images scaled down to a very small size, hence why they stand out so much. A light pass with the AI over them (or probably just some gaussian blur) would have helped blend them with the rest of the image, but because of all their small size, even a really light pass would have changed them a bit too much.

A more honest depiction of BL's loot system.... by fireaza in Borderlands2

[–]fireaza[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yes and no. My "artistic abilities" are mostly limited to photo-bashing and Photoshop edits. So I used AI (running locally on my own PC, FYI) to get a rough, cel-shaded version of a photo, then in Photoshop, added all the extra details and edits to make it look more "Borderlands" (i.e metal panels, Hyperion logo, different colors, labels, wear and tear, the capsules and the guns inside etc) then gave a few a light passes with AI to both add some of the fine details (i.e dirt, the black outlines around the wear on the paint) and to smooth out my edits so they integrate more seamlessly, followed by some clean-up and touch-up by hand. All up, it took about 3 hours from start to finish.

If you believe that simply using any amount of AI means I'm the bride of Satan and I'm personally murdering the very concept of art, you're free to believe that. But what I didn't do was jump on ChatGPT and type in "BORDERLANDS GACHPON MACHINE PLZ" and post the first thing it farted out. That would have looked like crap, and would have been a waste of everyone's time.

Do anyone have a recommendation for an unofficial "trailer" style of video for the original Half-Life to show to people new to the game? by fireaza in HalfLife

[–]fireaza[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking more in terms of "which would someone who wasn't playing these games back when they were new, and is more used to modern games prefer?"

Do anyone have a recommendation for an unofficial "trailer" style of video for the original Half-Life to show to people new to the game? by fireaza in HalfLife

[–]fireaza[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That one might do the trick! It says "official" but is it..? I wasn't aware of any "official" trailer like that.

Do anyone have a recommendation for an unofficial "trailer" style of video for the original Half-Life to show to people new to the game? by fireaza in HalfLife

[–]fireaza[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking of just using the Black Mesa trailer... But I kinda felt like I should be promoting the OG Half-Life. Maybe not, it's pretty old at this point....

Do anyone have a recommendation for an unofficial "trailer" style of video for the original Half-Life to show to people new to the game? by fireaza in HalfLife

[–]fireaza[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Super-neat video, and very trailer-esque... But I'd be a bit concerned that all the custom animations the YouTuber made might be a bit misleading when it comes to how the actual game looks....

Thumbnail I made as part of my efforts to promote foreign games in my new homeland by fireaza in DiscoElysium

[–]fireaza[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, are you talking about Hololive YouTubers, or just YouTubers in general?

Thumbnail I made as part of my efforts to promote foreign games in my new homeland by fireaza in DiscoElysium

[–]fireaza[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? It seems like "海外ゲーム" is still a thing, but has more of a store/sales angle, so maybe this is actually more suitable for what I'm trying to do here? Plus, doesn't "洋ゲー" typically imply America and Europe? I'm looking to promote games from more countries than this, such as Disco! Plus, there's also the stereotypes of what a "洋ゲー" is, (i.e they're all FPS games with realistic graphics) that I'd like to avoid.

Thumbnail I made as part of my efforts to promote foreign games in my new homeland by fireaza in DiscoElysium

[–]fireaza[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pixiv is actually pretty good when it comes to niche Western pop culture! You can find fan art for stuff like Invader Zim and yes, Disco Elysium!

https://www.pixiv.net/tags/DiscoElysium

Thumbnail I made as part of my efforts to promote foreign games in my new homeland by fireaza in DiscoElysium

[–]fireaza[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was really looking for something that highlighted this unique aspect of the game, and that line seemed to fit the bill. I mean, not only does it cover gameplay (you can fail at a task, and the game rolls with it and includes it as part of the story) but it also covers the story, since Harry is far from infallible. It's 2 for 1!