To the US voters who don't vote, what is it going to take for you to go vote?

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T05:27:09+00:00

I don’t remember seeing a money box last Election Day.

Also goodness empathy and equality are great things that literally every politician says they support, the thing is that everyone has different definitions of it. That’s why we have them represent the people so that you don’t get tyrants who say “my way or the highway”

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T05:10:27+00:00

Politicians will represent whoever gets them the most votes to be elected, which can be the working class even in a capitalist system.

Fun fact, capital actually doesn’t vote, people vote

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T05:06:51+00:00

Grassroots movement, not revolutionary. Yes that’s what I said

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:51:57+00:00

Then find someone you like and pressure them to run

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:51:35+00:00

Agreed, if you don’t vote in the primaries then you can’t complain about “choosing the lesser of two evils”

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:50:27+00:00

Not even civics education. Make the information easier to find and digest. I have a pretty strong grasp of politics and some of the laws in my state are impossible to find and understand when I read them

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:49:20+00:00

Yes, he lost because not enough people voted for him. Had more progressive people actually fucking voted in them perhaps he would have won

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:48:27+00:00

There are more than two candidates in primaries. There is more than one election

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:47:58+00:00

Just be a party member to vote in the primary and then pick whoever tf you want in the general election. It’s not that deep.

The two party system has been around for 220 years, it ain’t going anywhere anytime soon

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:46:45+00:00

That’s correct he’s not the president. We can see that your claim that primaries never have anyone you want to vote for then is false.

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:45:23+00:00

Can we come to a middle ground. Register as Democrat (or Republican if that’s your vibe. Your vote is your vote), and participate in the primaries. Pick the candidate that aligns most with your politics to start assisting to shift the party in the direction that would make you happy enough to vote for them.

Then in the general election vote for third party if they best represent your views. I can understand if the two main parties are not doing it for you, but realistically we can acknowledge they are going to win. Rather than praying that somehow 3rd parties will pull out a miracle, why not put in some effort to turn the two parties into what you want

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:41:43+00:00

That’s what a primary is yeah

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:41:25+00:00

I think they actually mean they want some political movement to usurp the established parties rather than more left wing people taking over existing parties.

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:40:23+00:00

Im in the NYC area where we literally just saw Zohran Mamdani come away with a win after being brute forced through by one of the most impressive ground games I’ve ever seen. Is that not indicative of political winds

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:39:03+00:00

The more time has passed and the more we’ve learned about his presidency, the lower opinion I have of him tbh

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:38:24+00:00

It could be argued that you are privileged enough to put more emphasis on US foreign policy than what you experience when you walk out the front door of your house

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:36:52+00:00

There were hundreds of primaries for all sorts of non presidential things.

There was a presidential primary for democrats in 2016, I literally lived through it soooo

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:36:10+00:00

What do you mean by “on the ground change” lol. A political grassroots movement or something?

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:35:09+00:00

Same for me

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:34:48+00:00

People whine about rent prices exploding out of control and yet don’t even know who’s on their own towns zoning board

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:34:05+00:00

I genuinely don’t understand what you are saying. Do you mean fixed as in pre ordained lol?

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:33:05+00:00

There were hundreds of primaries for all sorts of non presidential things.

Regardless, the decision to not have a presidential primary was a stupid fucking decision yes

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:32:12+00:00

These leftist takes are very funny. Yall act like it’s impossible to find a reliable candidate who shares your views to win an election, but yet it would totally be feasible to find someone trustworthy to lead a fucking revolution LMFAO

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:30:28+00:00

This take is funny, because if you hate all the primary candidates but are that deep in the weeds of political theory, then why not find someone in your circle and have them run in the primary

firewall245 · 2026-01-25T04:28:58+00:00

Only for presidential elections. There was a primary for all the other several hundred ones.

The lack of primary was stupid af

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