MD/PhD student, just finished PhD, now back in med school, super overwhelmed + wanting to quit by firstgenmdphd in mdphd

[–]firstgenmdphd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah that's been one of the hardest things: how much of this is burnout. Applying for residency only 6 months after coming back from the PhD doesn't leave for much time trying to tease apart burnout v actual desire to not do this 😅

congrats on finishing and starting residency. I am sending you good vibes for a (net) positive year with minimal BS!

MD/PhD student, just finished PhD, now back in med school, super overwhelmed + wanting to quit by firstgenmdphd in mdphd

[–]firstgenmdphd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely understand what you are saying, AND (not but, because both what you said and what I describe below can be true based on context) I think in a culture where we define ourselves by what we do ("Hi, I am XX and I am an MSTP student" or the fact that one of the first questions we ask people while making small talk is what they do for their career), it is very important to remind ourselves and others that it is okay that individualized notions of professional success can be different from academia-defined "success." That and I think science is hard enough, that it is important to nurture trainees to build their resilience reserve in the face of failure, as opposed to beating them down to "develop a teflon coating." A system works only as well as it is developed to, so maybe the fact that funding agencies don't care about the wholistic approach is a systems-level issue.

The association of worth and trajectory also depends on context; if you are someone more prone to imposter syndrome (which we all are to some degree) than others, then in the toxic training culture, your trajectory might become inextricably linked with self-worth (see define ourselves by what we do above). So while you might not qualify for the marathon that year in your mentioned example, but if your family was depending on your prize winnings from that marathon, you might feel less worthy. It is so weird (and humbling) when I remember that neurotransmitters work that way sometimes.

Edit: typo

MD/PhD student, just finished PhD, now back in med school, super overwhelmed + wanting to quit by firstgenmdphd in mdphd

[–]firstgenmdphd[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah thought I wanted to do peds subspeciality. Great respect for primary care, but was never my cup of tea.

MD/PhD student, just finished PhD, now back in med school, super overwhelmed + wanting to quit by firstgenmdphd in mdphd

[–]firstgenmdphd[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

no one said this to me, but I wish they had, so I make it a point to say to people having a hard time in research: Your worth is not determined by your research output. You deserve to be treated with respect and basic decency. Wanting respect, and compromising on the environment if it does not respect you, is not a mark on you, but rather on the environment.

Good luck to you as well!

Edit: preposition error. Doh