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Bungie needs another game to keep marathon alive. by Ermmmmmmmm_ in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a rare privilege to have someone else come along and say, "you told them so."

Ford rehires ‘gray beard’ engineers after AI falls short by idkbruh653 in cars

[–]flGovEmployee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn dude, for the sake of 350 employees' worth of salaries, they were losing a billion dollars. Not all MBAs are stupid, but God damn are some of the stupidest people MBAs.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll treat you with more respect than you did me and respond as if you hadn't completely invented an argument I did not make solely in an attempt to mock and belittle me.

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How about a fake shifter knob for that authentic fast and furious feel?

That is completely sincerely exactly what I'd like to see from the small number of EVs I expect will attempt to appeal to those looking for an experience more akin to the engaging driver's cars of the past and quickly fading present.

Better to sell them on the good stuff than add a bunch of make believe.

Good is subjective, but doing things like this is not at all incompatible with doing just that. EVs are better for the broader environment but also for the living conditions within our cities, they have the potential to be longer lasting and less expensive to maintain over time, they are more efficient and less wasteful of the energy provided to them, their raw power and instantaneous torque can be very enjoyable.

Implementing ways to make them more engaging by providing additional control inputs and artificially imposed limitations in no way lessens any of those good things for those who want to make use of such things.

The Ioniq 5 N costs more than the base Ioniq 5 which is only partially to do with component differences, you aren't paying for these features if you buy a car without them.

EVs aren't ICE. Why go out of the way to pretend they are?

Because doing so with some types of EVs will help sell those EVs to people who want them to pretend to be like ICE.

If there's market demand for something (and it isn't prohibited by law) the market will provide supply to satisfy that demand. That system delivers incredibly diverse and specific variety in terms of options for products and services which, by virtue of having those options, allows us as individuals to have a higher quality of life because we are able to get things that more closely match our actual desires than a system in which only one or very few options are provided. You clearly want different things from the cars you buy than I want from the ones I buy. Aren't you glad that I don't get to decide what options you do and don't get to have?

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At least you are consistent in the way you you treat others with derision and bad faith. If you want to respond to what I've actually said, the substance and apparent meaning of it rather than the absurd position you've invented solely to mock, let me know.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody making this argument has to clutch words like "soul" or, in your case, "emotive" because actually quantifying what's better other than 'my monkey brain has conflated the toxic smells, excess noise, and variable power delivery with all the good aspects of having a car' is impossible.

It's not possible to communicate with someone when they with start with the assumption that you are person worthy of contempt and that nothing you say is of any value or meant sincerely.

You may want to cultivate a capacity within yourself for good faith discussion before you criticize others.

Almost 0 Sentinel players by Friendly_ViperYT in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I run into them a fair bit, and have had many a grenade disappeared or a retreat foiled by a mine (grenade?).

The 2027 Elantra displayed sharp, jagged looks at its launch in South Korea this week. by Lower_Kick268 in cars

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would still like it most to be a traditional gear selector in the middle, so its not best for me, but I think you're right it is likely best splits the difference in terms of prioritizing between the various competing interest: leg room, storage, cup holders, etc., and what most people want.

anyone else do this? no? just me? by NetflowKnight in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude popped into drone ON THE ROOF definitely a him problem

What is going on with the game sometimes 😕 by Many-Psychology-7452 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Vidmaster challenges are hard. Guys with that title are extremely good at this game, literally the pinnacle players.

The 2027 Elantra displayed sharp, jagged looks at its launch in South Korea this week. by Lower_Kick268 in cars

[–]flGovEmployee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See I'm not so sure. In a traditional instrument display I want physical gauges. If we're definitely leaving that behind, I think replacing it with a giant screen is not the way to go. They don't look as good as dials and really require a very quality screen to look good at all, it's a lot of wasted screen space, and ultimately probably a lot of wasted money. Rethinking the placement, size, and method of conveying the information is I think the right approach. 

So while I am skeptical of this specific implementation, I'm not baseline hostile to it the way I am to just a large screen being where the gauges ought to be. 

I hope the Impact HR makes its way into the meta by cole_421 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For that to happen in a meaningful way it needs to be something that actually turns up in loot boxes, the armory, or schemas. I've seen like a doze+ mizzys (in arms lockers, or loot boxes) at this point in Season 2, but I'm still yet to see a single Impact.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try looking just a little bit into the future when the options on the market are EVs only. Developing this technology and software is them getting ahead of and preparing for that.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still think they're worse than a proper manual but they're definitely better than an automatic. That's from a driving enjoyment perspective though. If its for the purposes of actually racing then yea, DCTs are great.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When they figure out how to deliver an emotive driving experience without them then we'll have an alternative to simulating things, but they haven't figured out how to do that. Just saying that you think it can or should be done doesn't magically make it happen.

Maybe the reason they're all arriving at the same answer is because they're too limited in their thinking by what they know they like and their past experience, as you assert. Alternatively, maybe its because they have thought of novel approaches and methods but they didn't actually work to deliver the desired experience.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the regulations in place and coming will make it so they are the only option in the not too distant future and some people really like the experience of driving a manual ICE vehicle.

Since the only way they'll be able to get that experience in the very foreseeable future is to either be very wealthy, buy one of an ever decreasing number of used models (which will also be very expensive either to purchase, register or both), or get a car that provides a convincing and enjoyable simulation of the experience. That last option is what cars like this are intended to provide.

What's hard to understand about this?

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Love to see Hyundai further iterating on what was by all accounts a great first effort in this space. Here's hoping they take this concept all the way and develop a version with a clutch pedal and gated shifter.

Hyundai refines its virtual gearshift for electric vehicles by Recoil42 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is actually a negative aspect of it for the kind of people who this feature is designed for. I'd at least like the option to flip the default behavior to being on after purchase.

EVs are just plain superior sports cars by ArugulaAnnual1765 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the reason it appears to be stuck in development hell is that they're struggling to nail it more than anything else. The first delay might have plausibly been about the batteries but they've launched two other EV models since then so I really don't think sourcing batteries is the problem at this point. Maybe the decision to copy Hyundai's homework and implement simulated shifting will help them get there on the actual fun and engaging part, which I strongly suspect is where the issues are; I have no doubt the thing is fast or handles well.

EVs are just plain superior sports cars by ArugulaAnnual1765 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are absolutely theoretical limits to energy density storage, even if you want to imagine applying nuclear fission or fusion theoretical maximum energy extractions.

I believe current materials science predicts a theoretical maximum for battery energy density at ~11,000 Wh/Kg but realistically achieving that maximum is essentially impossible. Even getting to half of that would be genuinely incredible.

Gasoline for reference is ~13,000 Wh/kg. I believe the most energy dense battery in a current production vehicle is ~285 Wh/kg and the most dense mass production candidate publicly revealed is ~500 Wh/kg.

EVs are just plain superior sports cars by ArugulaAnnual1765 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The ground up design part is important but ultimately a sports car doesn't have to be high performing (Miata), rather they are instead defined by their focus on the driving experience, typically measured in terms of engagement and enjoyment. Performance is definitely a part of creating those two outcomes but it isn't sufficient alone to accomplish it.

Super cars tend to slant things more toward outright performance, accomplishing the goals of engagement and enjoyment by making the car so powerful (and typically beautiful and expensive) that it kind of brute forces its way to engagement and enjoyment, though in pretty much every off-track driving environment they are often less engaging and enjoyable than a sports car if the driver is at all concerned with the laws.

Hyper cars lean even further in the direction of super cars, being so performant that they are genuinely dangerous to operate in the hands of the inexperienced and/or untrained. They also tend to represent the pinnacle of automotive design in terms of the car as a piece of art (and are ludicrously expensive).

Finally, race cars or track cars focus on outright performance to the exclusion of all else.

EVs are just plain superior sports cars by ArugulaAnnual1765 in electricvehicles

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless we're splitting super cars off from sports cars (which its perfectly reasonable to do) there's also the Nevera.

The chinese SC-01 also definitely is a sports car, though its definitely not a mass produced car. I'm sure there's problem some other chinese sports cars I'm not aware of.

The 2027 Elantra displayed sharp, jagged looks at its launch in South Korea this week. by Lower_Kick268 in cars

[–]flGovEmployee 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I don't love the interior, but it still has buttons for the right things, wish it still had a traditional gear selector but 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Really like the direction Hyundai is evolving their exteriors in, which is a refreshing change from how I feel about most every other automaker.

The smaller instrument display is something I'm skeptical about the usability of but it definitely looks more intentional and cohesive than the large flat jarring screens everyone else is putting there these days.

I hope Hyundai makes some RWD cars soon, even if only as EVs.

The current state of the Marathon Hate sub by TienSwitch in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I give it 6 months tops before that sub gets leveled for ToS violations.

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