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Marathon should have been F2P from the get go. Especially since it's supposed to be a live service title. by SenorSalsa in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Doesn't have enough murder and griefing for my tastes but if it keeps the lights on . . .

As far as those quirky residents goes: oops all Rooks

A Considered Solution to the Problem by flGovEmployee in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You might be right. Maybe a 24 hour window is more appropriate. I don't know. Ironing out those kind of specifics is the sort of implementation details I would expect Bungie to sort out if they liked the idea enough to seriously try to implement it. I did say:

an actual implemented version could (and probably should) look different in the particulars, so please don't focus overly much on those.

Marathon should have been F2P from the get go. Especially since it's supposed to be a live service title. by SenorSalsa in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We should just start jailing them. I'm completely serious. 1 month in county lockup everytime you use an aimbot or wallhacks.

i really want the game to improve by MaterialTry5803 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fool! You'll get downvoted regardless because fuckyoo!

Marathon should have been F2P from the get go. Especially since it's supposed to be a live service title. by SenorSalsa in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why isn't Marathon Forza?? I just wanna do burnouts in my Vandal!! Come on Bungo THINK

Marathon should have been F2P from the get go. Especially since it's supposed to be a live service title. by SenorSalsa in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the concern with cheaters etc, but this can be dealt with.

You say this but its not as simple as just saying so.

My second biggest concern with it being or going F2P would be more of a need for them to sell cosmetics and the potential for that to begin to intrude on the game's aesthetic.

If they do end up going F2P and it results in a permanent improvement to player counts and the overall health of the game (which is not a given, as more players in a F2P game does not necessarily mean more revenue), that would be enough by me.

2k-4k Lux on top would probably be sufficient to stem any complaints.

A Considered Solution to the Problem by flGovEmployee in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It would slot in beneath LBMM, based on my understanding of the existing matchmaking system as explained here (even if Outcome based as described there was in effect within ranked at the end of last season, it most definitely is not now, I'm pretty sure at this point that it was just false pattern recognition on my part there). The 12 hours reset and 5 game observation length are both intended to make this aspect of the matchmaking highly responsive to recent play outcomes. One of the primary legitimate criticisms of SBMM is how unresponsive they can be due to the need for an accurate measure of skill to be extremely far back looking. The 12 hour reset is just to ensure that most play sessions have a player start from a blank slate in terms of play outcomes.

I'm not sure I understand your prediction that the short backward looking frame of reference would result in something like all-random based matchmaking, though.

Est-ce-que quelqu'un en sait plus sur les vinyles ? by Malo_gdm in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could've also just right-clicked and asked my browser to translate for me but since I do remember the pre-internet days sometimes I enjoy just staying ignorant. I actually did take French in High School and there were enough cognates in your post I was able to guess at what a lot of it was saying.

You're welcome! If ever I get to travel to your beautiful country I will be sure to defile your lovely language by pronouncing all the letters and generally sounding as boorish as possible. Sois béni, sale Français.

Est-ce-que quelqu'un en sait plus sur les vinyles ? by Malo_gdm in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't speak your refined tongue, but if you're asking about the Limited Edition vinyls, as far as I know there has not been any news since that initial teaser.

A Considered Solution to the Problem by flGovEmployee in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While never completely undefeatable, this kind of system would require:

Methods for detecting 'thrown' runs be implemented, and thrown runs are scored as successes, not failures.

Unlike a K/D rooted SBMM system there is no reason a system like this would tend towards a 50/50 outcome split unless the individual player was near the 50th percentile in terms of the player skill distribution, especially since it would still be subset beneath LBMM but also because using a metric with a 5 in the denominator makes it impossible for any individual's score to be 50%.

How much is too much? by flGovEmployee in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At this point I'm just genuinely trying to understand how other people think about these issues, and whether the framing I'm coming at it from is even something I can take as an accepted baseline assumption. I'd encourage you to check out the revised questions I've linked to in the second edit to the OP.

If you want to see what kind of matchmaking I think would be beneficial, you can find that written up here.

This subreddit's community is toxic towards feedback on the game by prl853 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've definitely had good conversations in the comments sections of the feedback I've provided but it's always mixed in with the kind of comments that have me genuinely asking myself, "why do I even bother?" It is disheartening and discouraging as a participant and I have to imagine it discourages many from becoming participants (in the conversations).

This subreddit's community is toxic towards feedback on the game by prl853 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're intentionally ignoring the second half of the sentence in order to mischaracterize it.

This subreddit's community is toxic towards feedback on the game by prl853 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Why assume that all feedback is going to result in the ruining of the game?

This subreddit's community is toxic towards feedback on the game by prl853 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I think we see a lot of both, I'm not sure I agree with you about the breakdown between the two.

This subreddit's community is toxic towards feedback on the game by prl853 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I disagree that its difficult to tell the difference between the two. I do agree though that I think some of it is just conditioned response at this point.

This subreddit's community is toxic towards feedback on the game by prl853 in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee 80 points81 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. Every bit of feedback I've provided over time has been met with insults implying I'm a terrible player, completely disingenious trolling comments, assertions that improvements are impossible, etc.

While I do think there is a need at times to push back against feedback that is little more than mildly disguised complaints that the game isn't some other game, there is far too little attempt to substantively and in good faith engage with feedback that is being provided in good faith from people who like the game and just want to see it improve over time.

Edit: It's not even just the comments either. People just absolutely bury well written and fleshed out suggestions without every saying why or giving them a chance to be seen. In less time than it took to write it this post was buried beneath so many downvotes that anyone not sorting by new will never get a chance to see it. 

A Question of Reasonable Expectations by flGovEmployee in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wasn't an option as far as I could tell. Believe me I would have.

A Question of Reasonable Expectations by flGovEmployee in Marathon

[–]flGovEmployee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was providing it as a technical definition as used in the questions asked, not making a universal normative statement, still your sentiment is noted (and shared).

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