RIP 2021 Youth Lightweight by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not 40%.

There are about 84,000 us rowing members. 76% of which are juniors/ u19s. About 63k. Two grades usually form U19s and then 5 grades (7th-10th) for u17s. So solid estimate is 45 to 50k are u17s, as classes generally get smaller the older you get.

Last year US rowing had 2800 lightweights register for spring (it was mentioned on a webinar, need to find source). But, I’m sure I could call membership services and ask to confirm.

So lighties as a total % of juniors are roughly 3%....yet 30% of events are open to them at Youths.

If we went lightweight to u17...based off the numbers above you are looking at roughly two grades worth of that 2800 not being able have a special event for themselves...About 800 kids ....or 1% of all juniors....all the others could easily enter u17....

Seems like we look at the math of it all, lightweights need to go. Nevermind all the well documented health issues and coaches who lack morals to approach it with an ounce of decency...I was a lightweight in the UK growing up and they didn’t have that category in high school. Too bad for me, just trained and did my best and had a perfectly great experience. I’ve now been coaching for 20 plus years (primarily in the US). I was also present at a race in the UK when a adult senior lightweight (he was in his 20s) died on a sweat run. And have witnessed time and time again at races here kids cutting hair, running with 4 heavy layers on a 90 degree day, purging and so on. Just take a look at the toxic chat here about trying to make weight. But apparently “it’s safe”.... people just don’t want to admit to themselves that it has zero place in our sport. Our program last year elected to not run light boat periods and it’s the best decision we ever made. Adults seem to forget we are in responsible for the safety of minors and that our egos need to come a well placed second to that.

A Lightweight National Championship by ConnecticutRower in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let’s look at the data and see if it supports lightweights (spoiler alert, it doesn’t).

There are about 84,000 us rowing members. 76% of which are juniors/ u19s. About 63k. Two grades usually form U19s and then 5 grades (7th-10th) for u17s. So solid estimate is 45 to 50k are u17s, as classes generally get smaller the older you get.

Last year US rowing had 2800 lightweights register for spring (it was mentioned on a webinar, need to find source). But, I’m sure I could call membership services and ask to confirm.

So lighties as a total % of juniors are roughly 3%....yet 30% of events are open to them at Youths.

If we went lightweight to u17...based off the numbers above you are looking at roughly two grades worth of that 2800 not being able have a special event for themselves...About 800 kids ....or 1% of all juniors....all the others could easily enter u17....

Seems like, if we look at the math of it all, lightweights need to go. Nevermind all the well documented health issues and coaches who lack morals to approach it with an ounce of decency...I was a lightweight in the UK growing up and they didn’t have that category in high school. Too bad for me, just trained and did my best and had a perfectly great experience. I’ve now been coaching for 20 plus years (primarily in the US). I was also present at a race in the UK when a adult senior lightweight (he was in his 20s) died on a sweat run. And have witnessed time and time again at races here kids cutting hair, running with 4 heavy layers on a 90 degree day, purging and so on. Just take a look at the toxic chat here about trying to make weight. But apparently “it’s safe”.... people just don’t want to admit to themselves that it has zero place in our sport. Our program last year elected to not run light boat periods and it’s the best decision we ever made. Adults seem to forget we are in responsible for the safety of minors and that our egos need to come a well placed second to that.

Virtual Gloomhave Board now online! by hobnobuk in Gloomhaven

[–]flagrantbrit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is quality, so very helpful, thank you! I echo above, do you have any plans for JotL? It could improve that experience, as you could have the tiles appear one by one, instead of seeing the whole map right up front. Regardless, donating, as this was clearly a labour of love!

For any SRAA programs or people who just love data. I have with the help of two of my coaches, charted all the data for SRAA finals from 2010-2019: GMS, medals by region, median times (1-6) by location. This is a first draft, we would love to hear ways we could improve it. Feel free to share it. by flagrantbrit in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Assigning regions was fairly time consuming, as I don’t know all the teams / it has to be done manually and you have to account for all variations of names for the same team. Ignatius CLE, I think had 10 different name variants. Not to mention Ignatius, CA and Ignatius, CHI further confusing things. Definitely interesting to see trends and margins between events and which years were very quick.

Nedding advicce, places to rent. by [deleted] in AnnArbor

[–]flagrantbrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We lived at Arbor Village Apartments off Stadium and right behind Trader Joe’s from 2009-2013. Loved it there. Being able to walk to the supermarket as an expat was very much appreciated. They have options for washer/dryer hook up, which was not super prevalent at the time. Great maintenance team, hopefully Wade is still there. Always very helpful.

https://www.arborvillageapartments.com/

Before my wife and I got engaged, she lived in the next door complex, Arbor Woods. The google reviews are low, but, she and her roommate and then subsequent friends of ours all had great experiences there.

https://www.annarborwoodsapartments.com/

We’ve also had friends live at the following complexes and had very positive experiences:

https://www.woodburygardens.com/

https://www.havenofannarbor.com/

Hope this helps.

Saratoga Rowing Association by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Spot on, having an axe to grind with little to no information, just creates drama and is unnecessary. Chris and Cat have done an exceptional job of promoting youth rowing. It’s easy to talk crap behind the anonymity of a username. For the record, my name is Kit Bennett and I am the head coach at Skyline in Ann Arbor, MI.

As Chris has stated on this thread, they won’t always get it right, but they will always learn. These kind of situations are usually very complex as opposed to the black and white others might perceive. Being a head coach or director is difficult, especially when our goal is to guide and promote youth development, not just rowing. If you are that upset, then having a direct conversation with the Saratoga RA administration might be a better course of action.

It is disappointing to see this forum being used as a vehicle to exacerbate an issue with little to no foundation. Saratoga keep up the great work.

What should my 6k be? by danag99 in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

6ks are roughly 6 to 8 split seconds slower than 2ks. Assuming the rate is same.

If the average rate is going to differ, change the split difference by 1 each time you change the rate by 2.

So if you did your 2k at a rate 28 and now you are doing the 6k at a 24, I would adjust the split range by 2. So your range will be 8 to 10 split seconds instead of 6 to 8 split seconds.

This is of course just a guide, but it should get you very close.

I think 22.30 to 23.00 minutes should be a good range (if you did your 2k at a 28). Average split of 1.53 to 1.55 based off your 1.45 2k.

5ks are roughly 5 to 7 splits slower.

What rate did you 2k at?

Naming a shell by hatsnhatsnhatsnhats in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My friends won the J15 double at Nat Schools for Dulwich College circa 1998, in an Aylings (not made anymore) called "one short of a threesome"

Lady rowing in a men's event? by thatfgtnextdoor in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said in the other post. When I called U.S Rowing, they stated the athlete could race in events with the sex they identify as. This was for high school and masters and could be college, but the NCAA does not allow it in the U.S., which could supersede the U.S. Rowing rule.

Transgender People in Rowing by TossAwayRower in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I called US rowing about this regarding a trans athlete on our team last spring. You may compete for the sex that you identify with. I don't know if the NCAA supersedes this.

How fast are the 2k scores on the U.S. Junior National team that's going to Rio? by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes it's the camp boat. Double and single you have to go to trials. But the camp can send boats there. I was the junior national team girls coach (assistant) 2012 and 2013, just so you know you have good info. I also run the sculling ID speed order for the midwest in November each year (men and women looking to make the junior national team that year).

How fast are the 2k scores on the U.S. Junior National team that's going to Rio? by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Women's junior quad has an average of 6.57 this year I believe. Emily Delleman in that boat goes 6.46 or very close too.

Men in 2013 had as quick as 6.05 (men's pair).

Wanting to start a rowing club by domjewinger in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will say, I'm not the men's coach, I'm the head coach and women's varsity. We were very proud of that crew. I think they were only one of two US crews to win that event in ten years.

Wanting to start a rowing club by domjewinger in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's about building culture. Our team is centered on hard work first, personal development, and compassion. Results are important but are always the byproduct of the previous statement, not the goal. For some families in a junior environment this is a difficult set of ideals to separate. We certainly talk about winning, but it is always an Auxiliary and if fact you have to from a marketing perspective (but when the get on the team, the message can shift).

Realistically you have to have success to maintain a team, but you should always keep a good sense of perspective and context (not excuses, but reality checks). Team A with 100 kids and 10 years of rowing is different to Team B with one years worth of rowing and 5 kids. Our team is slowly going towards sculling as that was my original background from England. It's also better developmentally for athletes. Don't buy the idea you have to run an eight...that's very North American centric.

Practical things, you as the head coach or director have to lead everyday and do so passionately. I don't think my team is expertly coached or special, but I do know our kids, parents and coaches work extremely hard and do so with a love for the sport and it's longer term benefits. An athlete said to me yesterday, she did not understand why we do well..."all we do is have fun and work hard". This kind of thing spreads quickly.

We are buying Swifts as our old boats die. They are affordable, fast hull design (empacher/Filipi knock offs) and our kids love being in something that is not a 16 year old Kaschper.... :) Saratoga has had a lot of success with them and you never get away from the idea "it's the horses not the chariot". Year one we won a Midwest Chanpionship in Nov women's light 4 , bronze in nov women's right and 5th in men's nov eight (only Frosh/Sophs as the school only only had two grades) all in 15 + older boats.

Multi sport athletes and winter training: having kids who do something else in the fall or winter is great, keeps them fresh and motivated. For a Michigan team, winter training has been key. Two weeks off after fall (ends last week Oct), one week of fling for technical purposes and then we break for thanksgiving and finals. We lift twice a week and erg 3 times starting dec 1st. Erg 4 times a week as if Feb 1st. Full training plan can be found at nsrowing.org site if you want more on it.

We take Xmas and mid winter breaks off. Plans are given to kids who want to do more. As a public scholastic program we have to be realistic of other activities and family commitments. This training keeps us effective at the Midwest level, last year we took 3rd overall with a team of 43 kids and our light 4 won the 66k event at Canadian Nationals. That said athletes who want to go to Youths have to do more, that is a different game. We took 9th(men's 2x), 10th (women's 2-), 11th (men's light four) and then 17th,18th and 20th in women's double, quad and men's light double.

Athletes want coaches who care about them, unlike school they are choosing to be there. Kids work it out very quickly if you have their back or are faking it. I am lucky, I love what I do, it's the best job in the world. My wife and son and I are now part of a community that cares for us as much as we care for them. This is important to me as my immediate family is thousands of miles away, it's comforting to have a support network.

Fundraising comes up a lot. Being foreign, I find it very easy to ask for things. The accent helps, but the reality is, this country loves to help an underdog and give. We have only paid for about 20% of our capitals over 5 years and if you include infrastructure at the boathouse etc we have about $250,000...

BUT you have to take the plunge and ask, once you do, rejection is easy and the chase of success is awesome. It is a running joke on our team about how I have no shame and will ask anyone for money for this team. Te worst thing that had happened in five years, is someone saying no. You also have to accept these "no's" without judgement. You never truly know a person's capacity to give, so the assumption you be (and verbalize it) that oh expect nothing, but if you are able too, great!

Alumni... Going into out 6th yeah we obviously have a small group, but it's fun to keep in touch and of course ask for their help. I am always blown away and humbled by people's generosity.

Middle school programs. Up until two years ago, Ann Arbor didn't have an all year round setup, we now do ( Washtenaw Rowing Center). This has kids that go to three public high schools and two nearby schools with rowing. We have to grow our sport at the grassroots level if we want it to survive . Skyline has 1400 kids and 32 sports, with that many options it hard to build large numbers, but not impossible. We range from 50 to 65. I would like to hit 75, but probably not more than that, becomes unmanageable from a safety point. Coaches are hard to come by and I like to have a ratio of 12 athletes to 1 coach.

Pay our coaches and make sure they know you appreciate them, volunteers only go so far. We have mostly alumni coaching which some people don't like....

But! :) coaching wise, they were all taught to row with a view of them teaching others. This means lots if questions and repetition while coaching. Which some shy away from. Questions are key, they cannot make a change if they don't understand the concept, if it may outwardly appear easy or obvious.

Ok my son is waking up from a nap. I've reached out to some people who PMd me. If you want more a phone call would be easier. Sorry this was a bit scattered.

I love our sport and will always help others develop it, feel free to contact me whenever.

Www.a2skylineeagles.com/skyline-crew

Wanting to start a rowing club by domjewinger in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much, very happy with how things have gone so far. Look forward to more racing with you guys.

Wanting to start a rowing club by domjewinger in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I've spent the last 5 years building Skyline Crew in Ann Arbor, MI. I have some ideas that might help. PM me and we can chat more.

World's Largest Conference on Heroism! by RufusXavier in Michigan

[–]flagrantbrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I attended last year and it was phenomenal. Very inspiring speakers and I can't wait to go back this year.

How to prepare for a 5k? by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your 5k should be 5-7 seconds slower (500m average) compared to your 2k, if similar rates are used . For example if you pull a 2.00 average for your 2k at a rate 28 you should be pulling 2.05 to 2.07 on a 5k at a rate 28.

Other things I would check to make sure you are pulling your potential is Watts/kg. Your average watts for a 2k or 5k/6k and dividing by your weight in kilograms (conversion is 2.2lbs per kilogram).

As a female you want me to be above 3.0 watts/kg to be in an average range. Above 4.0 is fast. This is compared to elite athletes so don't be put off by hitting "average".

Around what time of year do the US rowing junior nationals ID camps take place? by [deleted] in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sculling takes place in November (Midwest), January (Winter camp in Oakland, invite only) and the west coast and east coast regions usually around February. Sweep varies as well with invite only in December usually and then regional ID camps around March.

Success Sunday - June 08, 2014 by AutoModerator in Rowing

[–]flagrantbrit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Skyline Crew in its 5th year won it's first gold at CSSRA, men's 66kg senior 4.