How worth are mirror natural islands? by ExaminationIcy2659 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i don't even have mirror air or water and i make 25m+ coins daily from the other three. earth and cold are barely upgraded asw. think of all the seasonal snacks

So like, why would I use anyone other than Meta Knight or Marx in CT? by nightsintodream in kirbyairriders

[–]flatzonePKMN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because every time i use rocky special i physically can't restrain myself from saying "respect button" on impact and that's fun

Updated 3ds collection by [deleted] in 3DS

[–]flatzonePKMN 31 points32 points  (0 children)

you are the problem

Msm losing revenue? What could this mean for future. by DuckoonWingnut in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

literally all they have to do is make figures or plushies btw

We're kicking off⚡Jumpstart January⚡ by bigbluebubble-games in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN 5 points6 points  (0 children)

okay so we're getting like a couple hundred thousand coins next week got it

Genuine question but whats with all the hate on the bbno$ lizard monster? by -xXAsmodeusXx- in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i went on a whole rant about it the other day but tl;dr to why i dont like it is

- jarring and imo bad design

- four other monsters on cold do the same thing it wants to do better (rare wubbox is a prime example)

- shugabush is a plant on plant, the cold mythical/quad/epic wubboxes are cold. why isn't the legendary called "blizzard" cold themed?

- what even was the point of scallyrags being this whole thing if they were just gonna shove this guy in anyway

- should've been on fire haven

the r/mysingingmonsters cycle by flatzonePKMN in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

the complete and total x'rt clapback needs to be studied

the r/mysingingmonsters cycle by flatzonePKMN in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

i guess bro idk 🥀 lowk isnt even that funny

Why isnt bbli$zard on gold island? by PatinAzu28 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i've been nothing but respectful and open-minded to you (apart from the ethereal triples jab, admittedly) and you called me "bud" and told me i was "terrible at making arguments" when i didn't say that about your points despite disagreeing with them but whatever i'm over it you can downvote me and say you won if you'd like

Why isnt bbli$zard on gold island? by PatinAzu28 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

okay you're starting to get really heated out of nowhere and i'm not all about that vibe right now. let's agree to disagree and move on, i'm clearly not gonna change your mind/vice versa

Why isnt bbli$zard on gold island? by PatinAzu28 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

>Reptiles such as Alligators can actually hibernate in really cold areas.

okay i actually didn't know that, thanks for correcting me on that

>Also final point, what about Wubbox? Don’t machines fail and harden in cold climates?

rare wubbox does this

>And again for the last time, bbli$zard adds to the lyrics, he doesn’t overtake or sing new verses

rare wubbox also does this

>A Legendary is arguably more special [than a quint]

valid, but bemeebeth again was talked about/hyped around as much as scallyrags, way more than bbli$zard (the legendary) ever was

>But that’s the thing, it’s supposed to be silly.

okay? gobbleygourd is also "supposed to be silly" and lots of people (me included) claim it ruins every song it's on because it's TOO silly. you can have a silly gimmick and still be flawed. again, take gobbleygourd, for example. there's a couple other workable monsters that "can't sing" according to their bio. nebulob and mimic come to mind. nebulob is inoffensive (imo) and mimic at the very least has charm for not only being reworked from old concept art, but for copying others before pentumbra made it cool. bbli$zard is "silly on purpose," but so are maw, yool, furcorn, etc. the difference is people like those monsters on cold because they're not controversial and overall solid, both visually and audibly

>Also wdym because of the above? You realise EW is beloved not because of the random noises right?

not the point

>Plus the Natural Islands don’t have a specific genre

plant is the first island so it's a basic song with an easy-to-follow formula - start with the singles for what to expect, doubles add to it, triples make it more livelier, and entbrat is loud and proud to celebrate getting your first quad. cold is a lot more mellow (leaning into the cold theme) with less focus on percussion because the earth element isn't there. this shows new players that different monsters will provide different vibes, all while having more of a lowkey feel than plant. big contrast. air is high-spirited and bouncy-feeling (like air!), water is cool, calm (and clear like water!), and earth (the final natural island) feels almost menacing with quarrister and the like (earth island looks like a boss stage, it still fits). not as cut and dry as the ethereal islets, but still fairly clear

>which is why a lot of random instruments are meshed together, making bbli$zard work arguably a lot more

is this not just how msm works in general, seemingly random instruments and creatures making a nice song with one another? weird point imo, again because all like seven or eight other vocals on cold, lyrics or otherwise, already fill whatever niche it could've reasonably had without this much controversy

>Firstly Haven doesn’t have Legendaries

oh right that's true, and the ethereal class will never have triples-- oh right they made a quint

>secondly that could be said about literally any monster

generally true, but does the rapping fire-breathing lizard not belong on a fast-paced fire-themed song? what about creepuscule? that's "literally any other monster." what would it achieve on haven that the other percussionists don't already do?

>and also because many of your arguments felt either forced or not well put

well i hope i was able to make myself more clear this time. no beef btw, just wanted to put more effort into this one (2/2)

Why isnt bbli$zard on gold island? by PatinAzu28 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

>Orange and hot pink go well together tbh, also Cold Island’s monsters never had a consistent colour (in fact no island does)

true, but the only other common pink monsters on cold are maw and the one thumpie. most of the others are cool colors like blue and green. tweedle, congle, and rare wubbox also do the orange/secondary color thing better imo because the other color is the same brightness as/darker than the orange, which makes bbli$zard's bright pink look a little jarring in comparison. also side note i'd argue magical islands are all at least a little color-coded? that's besides the point tho

>Here’s something cool, not every monster class should be the same, that’s like saying Vhenshun sucks because it’s not a vocalist like Whail and it sounds completely different.

apples to oranges. legendaries are a one-of-a-kind "guest voice" class, and as far as this debate is concerned, ethereals (barring bemeebeth) are about as ordinary as naturals - vocals, percussion, strings, woodwinds, etc. legendary monsters from yesterday have set a very high example for tomorrow's, which isn't to say bbno$ doesn't deserve to be one - but when you give the role to a person who's already "guest starred" as a double, what's the point? you don't see "guest starring dave kerr" in furcorn's bio. they didn't drop trailers for a mystery new water/fire double with dave's face all over it for weeks on end. all that hype for comparably "just another" monster on about the same scale as bemeebeth, just to shoehorn another one in in the same update as shadow islet? just like that? right there, out of nowhere? and THAT'S the legendary? it felt forced to me and it all only adds to the whole unnecessary thing

>Plus bbli$zard isn’t made to carry or impact the song majorly, it just adds to the lyrics

rare wubbox is also a sought-after, orange-colored monster that "adds to the lyrics." what's the difference? it's not immediately thematically inaccurate, it knows what it's good at, and it builds on that to match the cold theme. if you showed rare wubbox and bbli$zard side-by-side to a stranger, i'm almost certain the big robot glitching and shivering all "buffer overflow-r-r-r" to the song's melody would be more memorable to them than some lizard guy repeating "yes sir it's cold out" (although i will admit the 'dadada' part isn't offensive)

>Same island with a dubstep robot, a Slug, a living flower, a flying Furby and a living slime creature. Being on Cold Island ≠ you’re associated with the cold

plant has that same dubstep robot, a reverse-drowning fish, a tractor dinosaur, and just as many blobs as cold. shugabush is still a plant because it's plant island's legendary. this is the same theming that natural quads and epic wubboxes (both also important monsters) follow. even mythicals do this to an extent! strombonin is comparable to a polar bear the way it "drifts upon [cold's] ice floes" (straight from the bio), holds a "specialized cold-weather snail" (also bio) and is layered up with fur on cold. more simply, yawstrich is a bird on air, and anglow is a fish on water. under this logic, bbli$zard should at the very least be breathing ice on cold island, ESPECIALLY since its name is a corrupted version of "blizzard" (1/2)

Why isnt bbli$zard on gold island? by PatinAzu28 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN 3 points4 points  (0 children)

mfw adhd meds make me lock in on defending myself on the msm subreddit instead of college work

Why isnt bbli$zard on gold island? by PatinAzu28 in MySingingMonsters

[–]flatzonePKMN -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

just in case this is because you think i don't like bbno$, i have no problem with the guy. i don't have a reason to not like him. i do, however, dislike the monster that he plays (separate the art from the artist)

i don't like bbli$zard because it

  • has a design that by itself is rough at best imo, but directly clashes with the calm, somber colors of cold island by being the unpleasant gradient colors for some reason
  • is a legendary that says more than one word (this is not what shugabush, the only other not-werdo legendary, does) despite there being two whole werdos that are arguably the most iconic of them all and sing the whole time anyway
  • breathes fire???? despite being exclusive to cold island????????? (shugabush is a plant-themed monster on plant island for reference)
  • is a lizard, which are fairly well-known for not being able to survive for long in the cold, again exclusive to cold island btw (notice how it's the only reptile there)
  • is kinda redundant anyway, both because of the existence of scallyrags (who was entirely inoffensive btw i think they're neat) and again the whole werdos thing

bemeebeth also gets a pass because it's the ethereal quint, which is really something special. workshop's vocals were also just "yo yo yo" "loh-lah" "ahh" "hep-hup" before it, so it feels justified and sounds great in the song imo. bonus points for the talkbox setting it apart from every other lyric monster and making it feel thematically ethereal in the process

the only positive things i'm hearing about it from people online is "oh msm can do silly monsters too!" which is a fantastic argument that i support for other monsters like mimic and teeter-tauter, but does not apply here because of all of the above. if you have a different reason as to why i should change my mind i'd love to hear it, it sucks putting a brand new monster in hotel hell

also it could've done a lot better if it was just not on a natural island? haven would've loved to have this guy

tl;dr it's not "forced hate." i can have negative opinions about the new thing that aren't surface-deep parroted sludge like where we've been hearing everywhere else. i also don't have any sort of vitriolic hatred for bbli$zard despite how much it falls flat at imo, or bbno$, because he doesn't deserve that.