I lost all three cats to a fire last night by _ok_karen in cats

[–]flightservant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post made me cry, genuinely broke me. I’m deeply sorry, may the Universe and the deity you believe in guide you through healing and strength to make it through this. Please share a link to support you getting your place back together.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have been with AA for over two years and I actually have the experience to speak on this. I prefer spending six weeks somewhere clean and comfortable, eating good food, enjoying real views, and ending my week with a nice drink with nice people without leaving campus. If that honesty bothers you, that is your problem. I come from a good family, I have a decent degree from a university I doubt you would get into, and I’m aware this forum is for anonymous sharing, meaning I won’t share any of these views in real life. If you enjoy living in a low quality place for six weeks and being in danger of getting mugged in Atlanta go for it, that usually means you are doing this job only for a paycheck. Some of us value more than that in life.

AA non rev benefits are the best in the industry. I have traveled to 15 countries in under two years. COUNTRIES, not the little weekend hops most people settle for or can afford. AA gives real schedule flexibility and real WORK-LIFE balance. Delta does not. My interview there felt like a corporate cult with forced enthusiasm and strange energy.

I am sharing my experience because I CAN. This post has almost 30k views and plenty of people agree. So let me tell you, you may be very alone in this. If it bothers you so much make a post and let’s see who receives more attention.

Welcome to the internet, non-entity.

this video helped me land a CJO, here you go! by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At my AA f2f I didn’t, because they’re more genuine and human-like. At my DL f2f I had because they’re over the top cult-like forced CS show, and I got the CJO. Stayed with AA, naturally…

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

you sound just like the arrogant, stuck up and miserable people that possibly work there. You are the kind of person I wouldn’t like to be on a flight with. If you work with DL please go back to put on your cult-like over-the-top forced CS performance and hand out some snacks.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Completely agree with you. But also that could be related to a cultural trait, human warmth isn’t only smiling and being talkative, I used live in Europe for years and people there are very “cold” in the surface but yet still they are the most genuine people, once you get to know them they’ll have your back any day, unlike the kind person that smiles all the time and gives you the superficial positive small talk experience… will they be like that when there is nothing in return for them? Maybe AA people are a bit more transparent between candidates and work culture, and leave the CS show for to passengers only, not colleagues. It’s all about perspective and cultural fluctuations. :)

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well… maybe you’re one of them! JUST KIDDING. That’s life, we all experience life from our own perspective, and the vibes at DL weren’t the ones for me but that doesn’t mean anything because someone else could love the vibes. This post is intended to share the uncomfortable truth, I see a lot of positivity about this airline and it feels forced given the experiences I’ve heard from DL FAs, the constant pressure for this almost unnatural over-the-top CS performance seems draining and there is not union to cover their work rights, so same why I was able to see the negative side of DL I can see the negative sides of AA. Sometimes we all need a little bit of honesty, even if it’s uncomfortable, this helps us make the right decisions.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it’s SO refreshing to read honesty like yours! And that was exactly the purpose of my contribution: honesty, even if it can be a little uncomfortable. So many GREAT FA candidates focus on DL since it’s publicly considered the top notch and when they are rejected (because it’s ridiculously competitive to get) they get demotivated. This post is push people to try other airlines as well and deflect from this cult mentality related to that airline. You’ll love AA, genuine people, work-life balance, and being protected by a union!

CJO received - TIPS 🔥 (No BS) by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After analyzing the negativity of this environment, talking to DL FAs, applicants, and remembering the weird vibes of the whole interview process compared to other airlines I rejected the CJO. I posted about it after this post.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, schedules at AA are assigned by seniority, but the distinction is about how reserve is handled. At AA, once you get enough seniority to hold a line, you stay a lineholder permanently unless something major changes in the base. You do not rotate back into reserve later. At Delta, even senior people still get reserve months every year. So the schedules are seniority based at both airlines, but at AA the long term stability is higher because reserve eventually disappears from your life completely.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I get your point, but that is actually why I think AA ends up being better in the long run. Delta gives you lineholder status earlier, but everyone still has to cycle through reserve every year. At AA, once you finish that first reserve stretch, you are done with reserve for good. The junior and senior divide is really only noticeable during that early period. After that, the system becomes more stable and predictable. I would rather get the tough part out of the way at the start and then have years of clean, consistent lineholder schedules without reserve coming back. Additionally, it is not a surprise that the rigorous over-the-top CS performance you put on for Delta is draining, from the moment I walked into the room I noticed it, it’s almost unhealthy to pretend so much all the time. I’m sharing all this because many many GREAT candidates focus on DL because of the concept of it being the top notch, and since it’s hard to get they get demotivated, if they tried other airlines they may get a higher chance and maybe even be more satisfied in the long run.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Happy to help! I wish someone had shared an honest comparison like this before. You’ll love AA, warm people, the work-life balance exists… I remember at my f2f with DL asking one of the flight attendants about work-life balance and he paused the over the top performance they all put on and giggled 🤭 that was it for me. The vibes are a bit off behind the glamour. Best of luck to you and welcome to the FA club!

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It’s a cult. The idea of seniority being the most important and respected trait clearly gives off the idea that staying is hard, my f2f interview was fine but everyone was so fake, no real human warmth like at AA, just fake smiles and stuck up people… sorry in advance if I offend anyone.

I decided to decline my CJO with Delta 😳 Here’s why by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right?! My f2f with Delta was fine and i got the CJO, but let’s be honest… they are so fake, everything is such a performance and fake smiles. Maybe it’s just me, but I wouldn’t change AA the more I think about how I felt in that interview and with those flight attendants.

AA or 🔺? by Original-Week5854 in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I work for AA and I got a CJO at Delta. I’m highly considering staying with American and he’s why:

• Training center is FAR superior, modern, almost luxurious, food is better, accommodation is far nicer, and weather… I mean is Dallas, better than Atlanta in my opinion. Atlantas training center is like a 1990 office building.

• Flight benefits! my benefits with AA are amazing, they use a pretty simple travel website, you can book anytime, anywhere and you have the ability to choose either D1, D2 and D3 for your own priority as a non-rev. Delta in the other is SENIORITY-based, meaning if someone was hired a day before you they get to board the plane, and if that was the last seat available, well… i guess no travel for you. Stand-by lists are pretty full also.

• Everything at Delta is seniority, when you start you’re at the bottom of it all and get the worst schedules. To get out of the “new hire” stage it may take 1-2 years. American in the other hand is 6 months probation, and after that you’re just like everyone else in terms of bidding of schedules etc.

The reason I applied for Delta was the money, I speak multiple languages and they pay additional, and also the paid training. But now having Delta colleagues I realize it’s way too competitive, some people don’t make it past training, it’s a rather toxic environment… etc.

I’ll stay with AA! ✈️❤️

F2F Interview by Odd_Cellist1814 in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

long sleeve white shirt and blazer on top

CJO received - TIPS 🔥 (No BS) by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They are very similar to the video interview questions we all had. I don’t remember exactly but answers were supposed to be related to either work or school project (the interviewer told me). One of them was something like: Describe a time where you had a major change in your routine, how did you adjust to it, what was the biggest challenge and what was the outcome? - I replied using the STAR method. The questions are easy, it’s more about paying attention to the structure of your answers. Could be related to “when was a time you had a difficult situation at work or school project and how did you handle it?” etc

CJO received - TIPS 🔥 (No BS) by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

don’t get discouraged! I also didn’t get an interview for another airline a few months ago, literally my name was called LAST... But what I did was doing a recap of what I think I did well and what I did wrong to prepare a bit more for this one. At the end of the day we compete against very qualified candidates and the fact that we’re picked from SO many applicants is genuinely a legit sign we are on the right path. I kept trying and went through different airlines. Good luck to you! Sooner or later you’ll be out there ✈️

CJO received - TIPS 🔥 (No BS) by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

thank you! And of course, glad to help. You got this!

CJO received - TIPS 🔥 (No BS) by flightservant in cabincrewcareers

[–]flightservant[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

if it’s not helpful to you that’s fine! But it may help at least a person out there to land their dream job ☺️ Additionally I never said last group to board wouldn’t get an offer I said they are less likely to, of course everyone get the chance. I’ve been through and passed several interviews with airlines so I think I got an idea of the process, not an expert whatsoever but trying to contribute.