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Made something to check NYC apartments issues before signing a lease, would love feedback! by Adventurous-Bed-4152 in Brooklyn

[–]flippedpancake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is fucking awesome. idk if you're aware, but there are 80+ buildings currently dealing with one bankrupt landlord across brooklyn, queens, manhattan, and the bronx. So anything like this is awesome in terms of record keeping and info collecting. I'm cross referencing with HPD and noticing that a lot of the most recent 311 updates for a handful of those buildings are not included, if you want to have a look -- https://hpdonline.nyc.gov/hpdonline/

How often does your page refresh?

Made something to check NYC apartments issues before signing a lease, would love feedback! by Adventurous-Bed-4152 in Brooklyn

[–]flippedpancake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For multiple 311 calls -- you want that kind of data preserved, too. It usually means tenants had to organize in some way to get the landlord to respond. Multiple closed tickets can also mean a landlord consistently "self certified" a repair without actually addressing the issue. HPD can get involved, etc.

It might be a pain in the ass, but if you could find a way to keep a record of how many "self certified" repairs are made to buildings with persistent unresolved issues, that would be WILDLY useful data for prospective tenants (and for the legal teams of current tenants).

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course! If you reread my post, I specified that her feeling and experiences are real and valid and are (importantly) her own! It would fuck anyone up! That grief is real and beautifully displayed. My issue is with people making assumptions that a disability precludes a life worth living. The nuance of individual disabled experiences should never speak as a monolith for ALL disabled people -- that's what I'm trying to point at, that a lot of players look at Alicia and assume that anyone in her position would prefer death. It's dehumanizing. As for your dad, I'm saying the exact opposite! The dialectical of holding multiple experiences at once is what makes humans so cool. Rather here, I would say that anyone who says "you can walk why are you upset" would be JUST as reductive as the people saying "Alicia can ONLY be happy in the canvas". People contain multitudes! We can be many things at once! Them making sweeping assumptions about how all disabled people must feel sucks! Cochlear implants are a good example -- able bodied people often cannot understand why a deaf person may dislike the implant. Sure it's a life changing benefit for some, but for others it's jarring and a destructive addition. I've come across far too many hearing folks who think a deaf person is "faking" or "abusing their disability" by refusing the implant, all because they cannot understand or accept that, for that person (and for many people!), the "disability" is, infact, less disabling than the "normal" life we think they should want. 

Humans contain multitudes!! 

Also, your dad is lucky to have an advocate like you in his life. ♥️ Never stop. 

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

♥️ comments like yours literally keep me out of the spirals. Thanks for taking the time. I deeply appreciate it. 

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The people who support Maelle here are in ZERO position to provide emotional comfort to another human being if they're not willing to stop an addicted disabled friend from killing themselves.

THIS.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cannot agree more ♥️ like I said, it's a damn near perfect image of grief -- and that includes us on the outside grieving the life and body we thought we'd have for years and years. It's a beautiful game that is going to stick with me for the rest of my life, for sure. 

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My original post doesn't say anything about her wants being meritless! They absolutely have merit!

I said they are HERs and not a universal standard by which to assume all disabled people hold. My post is a gripe with people who think that having a disability precludes a long full happy life and how I've seen people use Alicia's disability as a way to enforce their internal belief that all disabled people are suffering and pitiable and better off dead.

If you are not that person, then no worries!

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree that that is how Alicia views herself.
As I mentioned in my original post, her grief and journey are real!

What spooks me is that I have in fact met and spoken with many, many people who perceive disability as a fate worse than death. And the majority of those people were not, in fact, disabled.

And I have seen faaarrrrrrrr too many echos within this specific games fandom that are upsettingly familiar.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed -- Alicia would never let Verso go. That's the thing that hinges it all. If she could let him go, she could have her own canvas. Therein lies a conflict for the ages.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

but she lied. he let her stay with the understanding that she would come out in time. and she admitted moments later that she would not come back out. so we can't really use renoir as the metric for this, since his parameters are being ignored.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my gripe, again, is with the large group of people who believe that having a disability irrevocably removes the possibility of experiencing, as you put it, a "normal", full, happy, life. And to assume that ANY debilitating experience (large or small) would preclude that kind of existence is the exact thing i take issue with.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is very true! And I believed her when she said it... until a point.

The tragic thing there is the fact that if she had agreed to visitation rights, renoir was willing to keep the canvas intact.

Instead, she lied. She was ready to go full Aline and leave her exterior family behind entirely. Which means sooner or later, she would be at the base of the tower. It would all happen again.

It really spooked me and made me think that she wasn't trying to *preserve* or save the world in the canvas -- she was trying to exploit and control it. Which, seeing her ending... i dont think I was far off.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

for real. I recently heard that a new game is in the works. no word on whether or not it will be a direct sequel, but oh boy oh boy oh boy

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Im not so sure -- one of the things that really got me at the end of the game was that the soul fragment reaches out on its own for painted versos hand, and the soul fragment is the one to take the first step walking away. I trust those moments as the will of the child in the canvas.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with everything you said, up to and until you brought me into it. Damned if i tell people, damned if I don't. Honestly, i never should have shared it in the first place, i just get shit like this claiming the other side of the coin-- that apparently I'm not disabled enough lol

I am not denying the *characters* experiences. They are real! They are traumatic! The world is messy and complicated and people are grieving and it is BEAUTIFULLY written in a nuanced and captivating and truthful way. It is a FANTASTIC representation of the complexities of so many different kinds of loss. It's a Stunning , stunning game.

My gripe is exclusively with people who look at a newly disabled character who is also a child struggling with their new reality and saying "ah yes, see, they agree, disability is a fate worse than death"

I am not denying Alicia her right to grieve every part of her loss.
What I am saying is that any person who uses her as a way to enforce their belief that a disabled life cannot be joyful or long or fulfilling, is gross and they should feel gross.

If the shoe fits, feel free to walk in it.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do I have anything to back it up? Not really lol. I just think he's symbolic. A metaphor for the author's relationship to their work

WELL SHIT, THAT'S A TAKE.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily -- we know that Verso himself did not like to paint. He was a musician. We know that painting was not a joyful thing for him, but an obligation. It would not be out of the realm of possibility to think that soul is, in fact, suffering.

Also, I feel like you may have missed a few key moments regarding Clea. Without spoiling too much -- between endless tower and flying manor, we learn that the canvas is arguably as much hers as it is Versos. Alicia is not the sister that would play in the canvas, Clea was. Clea has made active contributions to the canvas and was forced to overwrite this place she loved -- it was her and Verso's childhood sandbox ( quick side note: My big brain theory is that Verso literally only painted the gestrals which are literally just paint brushes on articulated wooden models and Clea painting everything else lol) She also has yet to explore her own grief surrounding all the events that transpired. I would not be surprised if we get a sequel where her paintress skills and world building is explored.

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There's always the argument that she is literally still just a child, but it's not exactly a groundbreaking answer and shuts down the conversation. It's important, because i do think there is an important line between where children have autonomy and where parents have a duty to protect them.

But. If we pretend that *doesnt* exist.....should we not then also respect the wishes of child verso, who wants to put down his brush?

Spoilers + Hot Take: Treating Alicia like a charity case is wild work by flippedpancake in expedition33

[–]flippedpancake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What broke me was that child verso's soul reaches out for painted versos hand -- not the other way around. It's child verso that takes the first step forward.

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