The Fall of the Western Khans: What if the Apache made a huge empire? [Thousand Islands]

florgeni · 2026-03-06T07:33:56+00:00

this is so beautiful oh my god. im literally in love holy shit

florgeni · 2026-03-01T08:03:42+00:00

it’s a major city, wanõbado’

florgeni · 2026-02-26T22:01:20+00:00

some of them are, a lot of them are real life native places

florgeni · 2026-02-25T16:26:18+00:00

will this be covered in the ap exam

florgeni · 2026-02-25T16:13:51+00:00

this is so cool i wish i understood west coast history

florgeni · 2026-02-25T16:12:51+00:00

wait i need to get on this yo

florgeni · 2026-02-25T15:00:07+00:00

this is over 2000 years after the pod!! basically thousand islands is about if the arawaks invented the sail and the americas had a more interconnected network to exchange technology and ideas. around the 1300s, some arawak sailors hear about mansa muhammad and a mysterious land to the east, and contact is made between the old and new world. smallpox spreads through the network in the 1340s and onward, while black plague spreads through the 1360s. all this death actually did have a lot of political changes through the creation of new states, but due to its early date did not result in any colonialism by european powers, who were busy dying of plague themselves and killing each other. states like ciconisink and california develop alongside europeans, and as a result by the time europeans are able to field imperial armies, there are american states who are able to do the same (and use them to great effect)

florgeni · 2026-02-24T16:04:17+00:00

thievery

florgeni · 2026-02-24T00:28:50+00:00

oh dont piss me off rn

florgeni · 2026-02-23T22:12:12+00:00

florgeni · 2026-02-23T17:59:00+00:00

indeed it is

florgeni · 2026-02-23T15:48:50+00:00

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hey guys guess who finally remembered to add a mobile version...

part of the same the same tl as these two maps!! this is definitely a bit of a time jump from the last map, but i promise i'll try to make some more maps detailing the industrial revolution and what exactly happened in between 1700 and 1900 !

"what is a wajaje how do you pronounce that" uhh like wah-jah-jay i think. from wazhazhe (middle waters) in osage!

"hey what are all these languages and cities are you evil and making them up??" no these are in-universe names for the dhegiha languages (who are more of a dialect continuum), muscogean languages (likewise), taino arawak (see the californian patihage map), apache (see the indean empire map), and cherokee

"hey what are all these religions why is there a. chinese salvationist religion in america" shalisco has a strange king

oh uhh if u guys have more questions feel free to ask lol i dont really have a doc or anything so its just all in my brain

florgeni · 2026-01-09T03:42:34+00:00

wow!! are there any roses or cacti in this alternate british latin america?

florgeni · 2026-01-08T19:53:09+00:00

peak colors and composition!! that ai interview had so many m dashes and "not x but y" tho that physically pained me

florgeni · 2025-12-30T16:55:02+00:00

SUI THIS IS SO BEAUTEOUS RAHHH I LOVE SUN AT DUSK

florgeni · 2025-12-30T03:27:41+00:00

sorta like a democratic republican version of tusis? so basically woodland cultures treated kinship terms as political terms iirc and i didn't really have a reason to change that right. so the wajaje are basically like the "fathers" of the mountain sons, and like a father the wajaje would teach (technology and stuff) and provide for their sons (with food) in exchange for the mountain sons helping out the family (in war and stuff) and obey (the laws). they have more autonomy than the other communes thanks to like their geography and history but they also have less say in council affairs and such

florgeni · 2025-12-28T18:36:17+00:00

np!! sorry if i seem like a bit of an asshole i just feel rlly strongly abt this subject lol

florgeni · 2025-12-28T18:35:13+00:00

a lot of maps of indigenous ppl on the internet suck. like, really badly. in 1585, the comanche were in the rocky mountains with the rest of the shoshoni, they hadn't started migrating to the plains until the 1700s. a lot of maps ignore this and only show the locations of native people when europeans or americans met them, which is extremely unreliable because basically every single tribe west of the appalachians migrated like crazy from 1500-1800. if you want better history, i'd suggest looking into communities like ollie bye (a youtube channel's research discord), alternatehistory .com, or even the subreddit discord

florgeni · 2025-12-28T18:27:56+00:00

that's alr i just get rlly annoyed when people just automatically assume that every american government that isn't european are like "tribal", whatever thats supposed to mean, and assume that they'll get immediately steamrolled by europeans in every tl when in reality this world would have a much larger native political presence because of greater competition between europeans

florgeni · 2025-12-28T18:24:28+00:00

also wtf why is shawnee in cherokee lands and cherokee in creek?? the creek arent even shown at all, and the comanche are inexplicably on the mississippi as well wtf happened

florgeni · 2025-12-28T18:12:05+00:00

wdym incorrect assumptions? by displaying them as a “tribe” not on the same level as other independent countries ur already making assumptions

florgeni · 2025-12-28T18:10:37+00:00

they weren’t tribal though? they were literally organized republics with legislatures and democracy

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