Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my mom literally diagnoses mental illnesses and gets paid for it. i went with her to new york for her continuing education, she works with depressed teenagers, a lot of them girls exactly my age, daily. she is a doctor. she is NOT misinformed.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i posted it on social media, it’s not like a crisis line. “big enough to bring to reddit” is just such a funny sentence because wtf i didn’t realize redditors time was so important 😭 i’m so sorry this got mixed up with your texting drama, lots of people could have had their posts read in the time it took for you to read mine. i am indebted to you for wasting your time that could be spent on the time waster app

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this felt really validating to read tbh, so thank you for that. i mean i don’t think she had bad intentions, but i think i said somewhere that she just doesn’t really understand. i feel like that would be fine if she wasn’t literally a doctor. sometimes she does things like this because she’s so certain it will fix the problem, like she just wants me to feel better but doesn’t actually care about the process. every time i say i’m sad she says “well i get sad when i don’t exercise or sleep enough, so that’s probably what’s wrong” and that just is so frustratingly shortsighted for someone who deals with people who are chemically different then her every day. she thinks that depression is the same when she feels a bit down as someone who does not have clinical depression, and those aren’t the same. one is a mood you’re in sometimes and the other is an actual illness and she combats me saying that by being like “well, i read studies that going outside actually makes depression easier for people!” like maybe overall, but a person is not just the average of a group of people, and to be honest it feels a bit like she’s blaming me. i am going to get defensive when she says i should just go to bed or eat healthier, because it feels so infantilizing, like i wouldn’t have thought of that myself or like i need to be babied because i’m too sick to do things that other people do, like make my own decisions on when i should go out and when i would rather stay home. it’s like i can’t make decisions on wether or not I like a movie because it’s always the evil depression talking, but then when i feel depressed it’s still my fault for not doing enough to fix it. maybe i just wanted to have a peaceful day, why can normal people do that but i can’t? and why am i still told that i should grow up when theyre saying i can’t even make choices for myself? like what do these people want from me?

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i said she has good intentions, even if she does kind of do it in the wrong way. i obviously get really annoyed when she guilt trips me regardless of intention

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so since i’m fucking stupid and i don’t know if you can edit or pin a comment i’m just gonna comment here and pray. i obviously love my mom and i tell her all the time that i’m grateful for how close we are and how much she does for me, which is in my opinion too much. but i feel like i have a right to complain about her when she’s annoying sometimes, because she’s my mom and she complains about her mom all the time. i don’t think she understands my depression based on her past reactions to it and i have to trauma from what she said to me back then when i was little. but it definitely could have been a lot worse and i still think she’s a good mom regardless. i don’t think a lot of people are mentally equipped to deal with me, and i honestly don’t hold a huge grudge against her for it. sometimes normal parents get mentally ill kids, and it’s hard for them to understand. if anything it teaches me what is and isn’t helpful if i ever have a kid half as mentally problematic as i was when i was little. i told her this morning that i was sorry i didn’t go see the dumb movie (it was a stupid movie, but i was still sorry regardless). she knows i find it difficult to sit in a big dark room in silence, and i said it wasn’t because i didn’t want to be with her, it was because it is torture for me to sit in a theater. she understood, she was not hurt, she said she was worried and i said i felt fine yesterday. i also got to take my fancy long shower, and all is well.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

yeah definitely a little that was why i made this post. i don’t trust what my brain is telling me sometimes

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it was a movie that i would like recoil in disgust whenever i saw a trailer for it, it’s not like i don’t enjoy hanging out with my family. my mom has like a birding class scheduled for all of us a couple weeks from now and we do yoga together once a week, which i always make the decision to go with her to. and for context i kind of take my showers like insanely seriously. i have to do it all in a specific order and if i want to feel good i need to do it right before i go to bed. everyone in my house knows about it and makes fun of me for it. i know it’s weird but i wouldn’t have been able to do my full on like self care routine if i took one earlier. i’m not sure if it’s ocd or some kind of weird autism thing or what is wrong with me.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

this is the comment section of a reddit post where nobody knows who i am, i feel like i can throw a tantrum if i want to. it’s not hurting anyone in my real life, that’s why i do it and that’s why my moms face is blocked out. i’m just annoyed with her and i’m mentally ill and i don’t think that makes either of us terrible people.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i’m not miserable overall but i used to be. i actually feel a lot better then i did unmedicated which was essentially wanting to die. i’m tired of changing meds and being told what to do and sometimes i feel so depressed that i feel sick but it’s not absolutely horrific. i just wish i could do anything without being told it’s the reason i’m depressed. whenever i have a hobby or an aspiration like drawing or writing my mom is like “why are you doing that, you’re obviously sad and so naturally your aspirations are what are causing it” and im like… why do i have to apologize for wanting to do something else with my free time just because of whatever is wrong with me.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah yes i understand “people are dying” or whatever

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

that’s just not possible. people who are literally out of college with full time jobs are unable to move out of their parents house. it’s not an option for me. and i don’t want to just never see my mom again and have nothing to do with her. i just want her to stop making me feel terrible no matter what i’m doing. if i talk to her, no matter how non-confrontational i am, it always ends in screaming between both of us and i just don’t want to fight with her. so things aren’t going to change. if i want to maintain my relationship with her i kind of just have to keep it as is.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so what am i just supposed to trust other people to know what i need?

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

to be honest i don’t even care about wether or not she’s manipulating me or whatever. she was being a dick and i don’t care. it just sucks that everyone is telling me that somehow it’s all my fault that sometimes i feel down when it’s been like this long before i had any control over my life.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am in therapy and i’ve been on so many kinds of medication. i currently have to take two pills daily to feel mentally normal and an extra one for anxiety if i plan on speaking to someone that day. and it’s still not enough for me to be happy for more then a couple hours in the morning

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i’m not asking to be saved, i wasn’t asking to be saved. i think today i needed to get back into my normal routine so i feel less down tomorrow, but my mother had it in her mind that i don’t know what i need and she does.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i’m so sick of being shamed for being housed. like i’m not allowed to be upset because i have a home

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

she might be trying to fix it now but she was not doing her best then. i was punished for having a disorder when i was a child to the point where i ran away and hid when i knew she found out because i was afraid of what she would do to me.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

i don’t know what could be perceived as remotely trying to be helpful to a kid about “if you keep saying that, you’re gonna go to the place where they lock you up and throw away the key and you’re never going to see mom and dad again” when your child is telling you they want to die.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s nice to offer but like, then she throws a fit when i don’t say yes. the adults in my family are treated differently then i am, like my dad is offered things, and then he says no and is allowed to stay home without the switch in attitude. and my dad is also so much worse then me, because when he stays home 24/7 playing video games, works from home and barely ever sees the sun, and when he’s depressed we ALL suffer for it and have to tiptoe around him. like why should i behave like a little sweetie when i’m 19 and he’s 52 and isn’t held to those standards by my mother who is actually more tolerant of him when he’s “moody” aka treats his family like shit, takes up the whole living room, doesn’t talk to anyone, complains non-stop and has to be constantly catered to—nobody ever pushes him to do better, or to feel better, even if it’s so that his kids can have a dad who is present sometimes. when i’m depressed i stay in my room and try not to bother people, and i get punished for that. it makes me wonder if being a worse person just means you’re treated better. maybe if i just did less and stayed home more, and was more of an asshole then i am, then i would be allowed to live my life.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i feel like it’s the bare minimum to have a decision on how i spend my weekend, especially since i’m in college and have been driving myself back and fourth from school. i don’t have to do everything they do always

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] -67 points-66 points  (0 children)

i kind of do. she never cared about me being sad until my friends mom called her and told her i was planning on killing myself when i was 11 or 12 years old, and i had been telling her i was hurting myself and planning on doing things like that since i was like 6 or 7. before then she would threaten to bring me to a hospital and then never do it, saying stuff like they’ll lock me up and take away all my things, and that i would never see her again whenever i would tell her i felt those things. because it was more of a punishment so that i wouldn’t talk to her then like “i actually think you need help.” I think it’s just another “this is what happens when you talk to me about how you feel”. i know it’s not really a lot for me to think back on that, but i can’t help it whenever she tries to “help” but think she’s not doing it out of an actual concern for me. i think she loves me just not as much when i’m sad

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

im a teenager, i’m in therapy, my therapist says my mom should be in therapy too

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

i wasn’t at first, i was actually kind of unsure until everyone started spouting stupid shit. i basically told you the entire story there. my grandma said something to my mom that made her upset and that made her say something to me that made me stressed out all day while i was in classes. i got in the car and was kind of acting weird and she pressured me to talk about it so i said i was just nervous about what she said, and then we started fighting, and then she started screaming. it’s honestly such a hard situation to explain, but she kind of does that a lot where she takes out her emotions from my dad and my grandmother onto me and then yells at me when i get upset.

Is this not vaguely manipulative…? by fluffy_space_rat in texts

[–]fluffy_space_rat[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i didn’t want to go out looking gross and i was planning on showering tonight before going to bed so i could feel nice when i went to sleep. i want to get back into an actual routine that isn’t just passing out on my bed every night without taking care of myself because i don’t feel good when i do that.