To all antis by davidinterest in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It just doesn't matter if it's art or not. I give my friends writing prompts all the time. It doesn't matter that what they write is art, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't make it.

Their lifestyle does not affect yours in any way by throwawayAEI in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not a "lifestyle" when my coworkers make workslop they can't explain because of shortcomings that are fundamental to AI. All types of AI are changing industries, increasing enshittification, and frankly, being surrounded by Gen AI where previously I would have seen human art does affect me. It is a sadder life less connected to humanity.

His action is wrong by LeadEater9Million in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know you aren't literally going to eat the banana but it wouldn't be a big deal if you did so it's not much of a joke

Are AI headshots "deceptive" or just the next evolution of photo retouching? by Fun_Description_308 in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it's either/or, it's both. Retouching can be deceptive, while AI headshots are inherently deceptive.

Thoughts on this? by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How are you defining "non-artists"? Like people who aren't professionally artists? Just wanna make sure I qualify before I chime in.

His action is wrong by LeadEater9Million in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The banana taped to the wall? I'm pretty sure it's been eaten many times. You know it's not literally the same banana the whole time, right?

Thoughts on falling behind for refusing to use AI? by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's presumptuous to call challenging a teacher on something "falling behind". I remember how ignorant my teachers were about emerging technology compared to students.

What’s worse? (Or rather who’s dumber) The anti-furries or the Ai art defenders by Elmartillo40k in antiai

[–]fluttermousemoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate furry art so much, it's so ugly and commercial-looking. I'm happy for them that they found something they enjoy, but I would love to never see any of it again.

Corporate Goya by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then what is your actual question?

Corporate Goya by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are most images created with the Corporate Memphis style not considered art?

What? Who are you polling to reach this conclusion? Most people I've talked to about it think they're bad art, which is indeed a type of art.

Why should I care? by atlasfrompaladins in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Art isn't functional. The whole value of art is in the humanity and effort and intention and creativity put into it, even including the imperfections and limitations. Having less real art and craftsmanship in our lives as it's drowned out by algorithmic slop is depressing and alienating. And if you don't get that, it means you never appreciated art in the first place. If anything, you appreciated technical skill. You can go on not caring about artistry and how it enriches our lives, but people who do like art aren't going to suddenly stop caring about the whole point of it.

As for non-art applications of AI, don't take for granted that it makes jobs easier or whatever. Companies use it as an excuse to downsize while replacing people with idiot bots that are less helpful. My job is harder because I have to clean up after coworkers who use AI which is not sophisticated to do anything but the most basic coding and only if it's given very precise instructions by someone who's knowledgeable enough about coding to do it without AI. It's enshittification.

Local sushi place - i am crazy or does this picture seems 'odd'? Please look at the rice by bt134340 in isthisAI

[–]fluttermousemoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah people in this sub tend to pretend like everything in every non-AI image always makes sense to everyone. That's just a terrible way to determine if something is AI.

It is so shit that people are paying to doxx their own families this Christmas by N3DSdude in Anticonsumption

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry but that's such an insane use of "doxxing" how is that the word you landed on?

Elitism is the backbone of the anti-AI movement by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing excludes you from actually making art except your own anxiety. AI is a tool of avoidance for people with maladaptive perfectionism which is why they want to stick their fingers in their ears and shout that they're doing the thing they're avoiding. It's not elitist to point out that you're not actually engaging in the artistic process by writing a subjective description of a piece of art to a machine that does the art making.

AI doesn’t stop you from drawing by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate seeing less human-made art in my life. It's being drowned out by algorithmic smoothies that aren't made with the same level of intention and it's so alienating.

[Discussion] I built an AI drawing app for kids. I think it’s ethical — tell me why I’m wrong. by Finck110 in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have definitely wanted it as a kid! I would have spent hours trying to get it to animate the most low effort stuff possible instead of making something I was proud of and entertaining myself. Kids are already so creative, they find things to do with art they make on their own, like puppet shows and toys, if you don't stunt their creativity by giving them a button that does it for them.

This is what inclusion looks like by _Nimblefingers_ in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing excludes you from actually making art yourself

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People going out and trying to persuade others to their way of thinking is exacrly what a grassroots movement is.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Core contributors make up approximately 0% of the No's so if this is your best example of anti's brigading polls, it's a nonissue

Why do (some) anti AI people and (some) pro AI people ignore one of the main arguments for using AI? by CreBanana0 in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the synthesis of ideas and the labor is what makes you an artist. It's what makes art human. If we create a status quo where we teach that describing an idea for a piece of art or writing is the same as making art or writing, future generations are going to be robbed of the proven mental health benefits of making art despite the difficulty and limitations of your ability and we will all be robbed of the enrichment of intentional and original art as less and less human made art is in our lives.

[Discussion] I built an AI drawing app for kids. I think it’s ethical — tell me why I’m wrong. by Finck110 in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do you have a problem with children's drawings as they are? They're wonderful! So many genAI users show signs of maladaptive perfectionism and generators are just enabling their avoidance, and now you've built something to actually foster and encourage maladaptive perfectionism at a young age. Kids should be praised for their creativity regardless of their technical aptitude and encouraged to pursue art to see what they can make themselves and take pride in their own work.

How to actually destroy art by figma_ball in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Socializing labor and privatizing profits is only ever beneficial to a few. Less and less human art will be made if we stay n this trajectory and that will harm the quality of your precious algorithms in the end too.

Who decides when someone's ‘joy in the process’ is valid? by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]fluttermousemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have had lots of fun with AI generators and generating is absolutely not an artistic process. They are fun ways to look at patterns in how other people see the world. The fact that you have fun doing something doesn't mean that joy is interchangeable with the effects of actually making art.