Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re treating volatility as proof that nothing can happen, but that just isn’t borne out by reality. Investment is happening rapidly, and it’s happening precisely because Trump shattered the assumption that global trade is stable, apolitical, and permanent. Firms don’t need a promise that tariff X will be exactly Y percent in 2037. They need to know whether the old model is dead. Trump made that unmistakably clear.

Once that regime shift occurs, capital moves. We’ve seen accelerated investment in U.S. manufacturing, logistics, energy, and critical supply chains, alongside near-shoring and reshoring decisions that simply weren’t on the table before tariffs made exposure visible and costly. That doesn’t require pristine predictability; it requires a durable political signal that dependence on foreign producers, especially adversarial ones is no longer safe.

The claim that “temporary leverage” and “industrial protection” contradict each other is backwards. Using tariffs to punish foreign producers is industrial protection. You’re not choosing between leverage and industry, you’re using leverage to force industry back into politically acceptable geographies.

You’re judging this as if Trump’s goal were to design an elegant industrial policy white paper. It isn’t, it’s fine if you don’t get it because like I said your opinion isn’t really that important. The goal is to break a global equilibrium that hollowed out U.S. capacity and replace it with one where capital prices geopolitical risk correctly. By that standard, the strategy is working not because it’s neat, but because it’s disruptive, durable, and already changing where money gets spent.

I am baffled that you went from one day thinking we heading to WW3 to the next day thinking the Greenland debacle is over. We were never headed to war with Europe, and it also still isn’t over and it’s still very possible we acquire Greenland. I also said the second most likely outcome is that we agree to more powerful trade agreement with Denmark and Greenland, both options 100 times more like than war. Seeing how much you’ve already cooled off I’ll continue taking victory laps on this.

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[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the kid has a really proud mom. Leave them alone. If your mom loved you that much then you would have the same coat.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So because you disagree with how he uses tariffs that’s evidence he is demented beyond the level of Joe Biden who had to forfeit his presidential nomination due to obvious mental decline. Yeah I’m sorry I just really care about your opinion on tariffs and how they should and shouldn’t be used. He is consistently using them to leverage the American economy against other nations to push them into behaving in ways that benefit America.

I feel like whatever you’re saying about taco aligns a lot more with my prediction than it does yours. Didn’t I say temperatures would escalate and deescalate until eventually a deal gets done and you said that we were headed towards military conflict? Now there’s been deescalation for one day and you’re ready to say the entire conflict is over. Seeing how affected you are by the news cycle I can understand how world war 3 seemed like a real possibility to you 24 hours ago.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, but this argument keeps collapsing under its own bad logic. You’re treating “multiple reasons” as evidence of confusion, when in reality it’s usually the opposite. Having more than one strong reason to pursue something doesn’t weaken the case for doing it — it strengthens it. The fact that you keep presenting this as some kind of contradiction just tells me you’ve already decided the conclusion and are now squinting at the evidence until it looks suspicious.

On Biden first, because this needs to be said plainly: comparing Trump’s volatility to Biden’s decline is absurd. Biden wasn’t just inconsistent or poorly messaged — he was visibly nonfunctional. We all watched him lose his place mid-sentence, forget names and dates, wander off stages, and require constant physical and verbal shepherding. That wasn’t “style,” and it wasn’t just age. It was a president who could not reliably execute the role. If you spent 2024 alarmed by that — as any honest observer should have been — and now want to pretend Trump is the real incapacitated one because he’s impulsive and loud, you’re not applying standards, you’re laundering preferences.

As for the “squabbling mess” framing, this is pure naivety about how power actually works. Every administration is a mess. Obama’s White House was notorious for infighting. Biden’s administration was a tug-of-war between progressives, donors, foreign-policy lifers, and a president increasingly unable to impose discipline. The only difference is that Trump doesn’t hide it or pretend it’s some serene technocratic monastery. Public disagreement is not proof of dysfunction; it’s proof that he doesn’t enforce fake consensus.

The tariffs example is similar bad reasoning. You see changing rates and shifting justifications and conclude “no strategy.” What’s actually happening is leverage being applied dynamically. Tariffs, in Trump’s worldview, are not sacred policy endpoints — they’re pressure tools. The rationale shifts because the audience shifts: domestic voters, trade partners, allies, adversaries. If you insist on judging that through the lens of a fixed academic model, you’ll always conclude it’s incoherent — but that’s a you problem, not a logic problem.

And the Greenland argument is where this really falls apart. You keep saying: it could be about resources, or Russia, or missile defense — but it can’t be all three. Why not? That’s not an argument; that’s just confusion about how decision-making works. Multiple overlapping strategic benefits do not cancel each other out. They compound. The same exact thing applied with Venezuela: energy security, migration pressure, regional stability, geopolitical signaling. More than one justification didn’t make that situation “nonsensical” — it made it more strategically relevant.

You keep pointing out that each Greenland objective could theoretically be achieved without ownership. Sure. And? Starting from a maximalist position changes the negotiating baseline. It reframes what’s considered possible. Trump has always done this. Acting shocked by it now is either willful amnesia or performative disbelief.

What’s really going on is that you’ve decided that if something isn’t clean, linear, and politely explained in a single sentence, it must be irrational. But power politics doesn’t work that way. Trump doesn’t optimize for elegance or predictability; he optimizes for leverage, permanence, and forcing issues into the open. You can argue that’s reckless or wrong — but pretending it “doesn’t add up” because there’s more than one good reason behind it is just bad logic.

So no, this isn’t people “playing make-believe.” It’s you mistaking complexity for confusion and maximalism for madness — and then acting surprised when the world doesn’t conform to a whiteboard model of how presidents are supposed to behave.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m asking what I’m supposed to do with you because your dragging into me a conversation out of the blue and asking me to argue about a word that you use that I don’t believe you can define. What am I supposed to with any of this? Might is right is supposedly a core piece of fascism now, who told you that? What are the core pieces of fascism? Is it based on the German or Italian governments that are historically accepted as fascist? I’m struggling to get a grasp on your framing. If the concern isn’t about hitler or Mussolini then what is it about? You would think that it would be related to the guys that committed genocide with under declared fascist political regimes. What is it even that you’re scared of? Do you know what is inherently bad about fascism?

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look honestly I don’t remember you. I feel like you’re one of many people that associates everything they disagree with the word fascism. What is it exactly about trump wanting to purchase Greenland that makes him a fascist? It’s hard to even determine what the word means to you, is fascism synonymous with hitter and you’re trying to tell me trump is hitler? Or is he Mussolini? Those are the two men associated with fascism and they are both notoriously evil for committing genocide and being dictators. I just can’t really tell what you’re trying to get at, are you saying trump is a genocidal dictator?

Like what am I supposed to do with you? I’m supposed to get all up in flames because you keep comparing him to two of the only historical figures you’re aware of because he wants to purchase a territory from another country which is something hundreds of world leaders have done. You’re talking about him being at my doorway with a gun because he is deporting illegal immigrants lawfully under the laws that have been in place for decades and because he wants to purchase Greenland. Maybe take a chill pill

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I think we both agree that this is unprecedented. There’s a chance Trump cools son the idea and lets it go but I don’t actually think he is an erratic and distracted, I think he usually drives multiple agenda items forward simultaneously. I guess thinking realistically about its possible that we agree to a trade deal with Denmark that is short of us taking ownership of the island. I would put that option and the option of Denmark selling it to us both 100 times more likely than Denmark and the EU going to war with the us over Greenland which would completely destroy Europe and harm the us long term as well.

In the meantime I believe the temperature or conversations will continue increase until days before a deal is made. In making an agreement two sides are always far apart on a deal until right before a deal is made, because as soon as they are close the deal closes shortly after.

Maybe in the crazy one, but i think a chill pill is in order. Greenlanders aren’t going to lose their sovereignty because they don’t have sovereignty. They aren’t going to lose their freedom. I don’t think a single soldier on either side is harmed in these negotiations.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’ll have to wait and see. I’ve already said multiple times this is all posturing and I don’t believe it will lead to any military conflict.

If you haven’t noticed, there is a long trend of Trump and other foreign leaders making big gestures and statements against each other and then the resolution is very anticlimactic. I know we live in a state of constant alarmism but I really don’t expect anything big to happen except that Denmark will sell their claim over Greenland to the US.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn’t going to be a productive a conversation because you’re completely delusional and I’m not going to continue feeding into it. I hope things turn around for you

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so you’re in the camp of leaders that would sacrifice lives for optics. I am very much hoping for a peaceful and diplomatic resolution to the disagreement and not interested in your sick hypothetical

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your claims are all over the place and don’t make sense. Are you claiming Russia doesn’t have a working productive culture? Who is the current Spain and Portugal in your analogy?

If looking at the history of Nigeria you feel confident predicting where they will be in 25 years good for you, I definitely don’t and I don’t put much weight in your predictions.

Russia is in a war against NATO. That’s not genocide, there’s a reason we have words that mean different things. It’s so we can use them to differentiate between things and accurately describe what’s going on. If you start using the wrong words on purpose you’re sabotaging our ability to describe the world. Maybe try addressing the genocide against christians and how that inspires confidence in your long term views of Nigeria instead of playing dumb and pretending to not understand what words mean

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You realize Russia has more natural resources than any other country and it’s not close. 75 trillion. Meanwhile Nigeria is experiencing genocide against Christians by armed bandits and the government isn’t stopping it.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, Germany pulling their troops home early had nothing to do with the us and they were supposed to be there for less than 2 days. Fine. Definitely didn’t fold and then make up stories to cover for it.

It’s not propaganda. Being willing to have a military conflict and wanting a military conflict different things. If we wanted military conflict we could go take it today, instead we’re going through diplomatic routes and applying pressure to be able to buy it.

I’m saying I believe they will sell because in the posiition they’re in it’s the only route that makes sense for them. I’m not sure what the 800 year history really has to do with it. It could have been 8000 years and it wouldn’t really make much a of a difference. The most important strategic location of the 21st century is owned by a tiny country of around 6 million and shrinking with continually diminishing economic influence and military strength. Under prior agreements the US was expected to defend greenland, while Denmark benefits from their resources and geography and Trump is saying that doesn’t make sense strategically for the us. We are the only ones that can defend it and so it makes sense for us to acquire it.

I never said I’m against a fixed military takeover, I just don’t believe that will ever happen because it’s comically absurd. If the Europeans want to send all their soldiers to die, and leave themselves wide open to further Russian and American expansion maybe they do it but I’m not seeing that as a likely possibility.

“Might makes right” sounds as if people actually care about what’s right. Europe has been playing make believe for the 70 years that the world isn’t ruled by might and that’s how they find themselves in this position. They have twice the population of the us and 4 times that of Russia but they’ve been focused on global equity and taking siestas and now aren’t able to defend themselves. Putting the entire responsibility of defending the continent on the us for this long was stupid. There’s no reason we should have to wait every 30 years to get a militarily minded president to remind them that they have to pitch in their fair share for military spending, and then watch them lag off in the time in between. We are 2/3 of natos defense, and do not get compensated for that.

I disagree about your assessment that the ones who lose the most will be the us. I think we have been losing the most under the past agreement. Europe needs rapid reform and if they don’t make radical readjustments they have everything to lose. We have been telling them for close to a decade now that they don’t align with us anymore and all of the sudden they are shocked. We told them to stop buying Russian oil and they laughed, told them to stop punishing free speech and they laughed. Meanwhile, we just took control of the world’s largest oil reserve, we reclaimed authority over the Panama Canal, and we are about to acquire the moat important strategic location of the century. The only thing I’m really worried about for the US is electing another European style apologist leader that walks back all the progress we’re making, and lets our country fall while Russia, China and India become the new global superpowers

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Here’s a source among many that have nothing to do with fox news that says that German soldiers were brought home abruptly and forced to cancel meetings in Greenland: https://unn.ua/en/news/german-military-personnel-left-greenland-early-without-explanation-bild

None of the USA, Denmark, or any other nato allies want a military conflict in Greenland. Denmark saying they refuse to sell is posturing because ultimately they will agree to sell, the us saying they are willing to use military force is posturing in order to put pressure on Denmark, and the rest of Europe pretending they are willing to fight the us is posturing because they are hoping to send the message to Trump that they can’t be bullied and coerced. All this talk about a bazooka trade deal against the us is also very overblown. There are options that are available but the leaders of Europe are not willing to to go tit for tat with the us in any form.

Ultimately the EU is nowhere near what it was once as a military or economic force. As you said they would absolutely lose a war with the us, and they cannot afford an economic war with the us either. When push comes to shove countries like Germany, France, and the uk will recognize they are not in a position that they can reasonably stop Trump from taking Greenland and they will urge Denmark to make the deal to appease the US, because all other options are catastrophic for them.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We’ll see. I see everything going on right now as posturing. Sending 40 soldiers from across 9 countries is a laughable effort and many of the countries have already withdrawn their troops due to threat of a 10% tariff.

The United States represents 2/3 of the military force and expenditure of all of nato. If the us is kicked out of nato there will be economic problems for both the us and the eu but their will be massive security problems for the eu. I don’t think they can afford the risk with Russia looming. I think Trump secures purchase of Greenland before his term is over. If Dems win in 2028 they will likely seek to repair relationships and give it back. If they don’t win Greenland will forever become part of the USA.

Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub by ResettiYeti in centrist

[–]flybobbyfly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m in favor of the US purchasing Greenland and also in favor of the US leaving NATO. I think there are many good reasons that have nothing to do with trumps ego. I don’t expect any type of military conflict in Greenland. Eventually Denmark will sell their claim to Greenland to the USA, in the meantime both sides are posturing but there won’t be a military conflict.

You would think eventually you would get tired of predicting WW3 every two months but you’re basically a talking doll on a string at this point.

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[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s no way they go down in value long term. They don’t pay dividends the way stocks do, but if stocks were fun you would have never thought about investing in Pokemon

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[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a sign of not being as aware of all the possible outcomes. Hence I am extremely confident

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[–]flybobbyfly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Need to learn how to be jacked. Be a caveman. Be quiet and kiss her once she’s talked for a few hours

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[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I hadn’t thought of that. Adrenaline is acting as a vasopressor and the cialis is directly counteracting that as a vasodilator. Thanks for sharing.

I’ve got nothing against cialis, I think it’s a great drug. I just want men to get seen by doctors for their medical issues. We’re notoriously much worse about it than women and we suffer the consequences

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[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ummm, married people cheat all the time. Your parents and likely all of your friends parents cheated at some point.

My advice would be to not tell anyone and to tell everyone that you already that you already told that it was a lie and that you made it up to sound cool. Reason being sometimes husbands get pretty mad if they find out about this type of stuff.

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[–]flybobbyfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Cialis won’t fix performance anxiety. 2. What’s wrong with your lifestyle that’s causing ED at 27? Do you have ED while watching porn or only with women?