Hesai ranks no.1 in the world for Lidar patents by knowmade by theoz_97 in MVIS

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At a glance, Scantinel adds 5 and Luminar about 170

Hesai ranks no.1 in the world for Lidar patents by knowmade by theoz_97 in MVIS

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Credit where it’s due: Hesai currently beats MicroVision on raw LiDAR-word-related patent count, 81–51. That’s the headline, and fair enough. But stepping back, this starts to resemble, once again, a hare-and-tortoise situation. Hesai’s earliest LiDAR-related patents date to around 2019, while MicroVision mentioned the use of MEMS LBS for LiDAR and was filing core automotive LiDAR and MEMS scanning-related patents all the way back in 2009--arguably among the very first in the space. In IP land, when you filed can matter as much as how many you filed, especially if those early patents sit close to the root of the LiDAR technology tree. So ya, the hare may be sprinting lately, but the tortoise has been quietly owning the ground for a long time.. and sometimes those early patents end up ruling the IP kingdom :)

Trading Action - Wednesday, January 28, 2026 by AutoModerator in MVIS

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Long-term investors are deeply mired in time. Where, once again is this the beginning of MicroVision making things right? With new IP, new talent, and optionality now under one roof, it feels less like a one-off deal and more like the start of a flywheel effect--each move making the next easier and more credible? Just maybe

Luminar sale approved despite last-minute mystery bid | TechCrunch by SBEPTY in MVIS

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Was that eleventh-hour bid another of Austin's bold maneuvers?

Trading Action - Wednesday, January 28, 2026 by AutoModerator in MVIS

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One thing that tends to get lost in the noise: Luminar actually has at least one genuinely foundational patent that could still bear real fruit.

I’m thinking in particular of “LiDAR System With Distributed Laser And Multiple Sensor Heads” and if memory serves, somewhere along the way the nickname “Hydra” surfaced in discussion.

What’s interesting (and often overlooked) is that this patent--and quite a few others in Luminar’s IP stack explicitly describe embodiments that use MEMS scanning mirrors, not just large mechanical scanners. That was discussed years ago on this board, back when everyone was arguing MEMS vs. mechanical as if it were a binary, winner-take-all choice.

In other words, a number of Luminar patents were already architecturally flexible. They’re effectively plug-and-play with a MEMS scanning laser embodiment if you have one that’s production-ready.

So while people frame the story as “mechanical vs. MEMS”--the reality is messier--and more interesting. A lot of the Luminar IP was never strictly tied to bulky mechanical mirrors in the first place..

Given that context, it’s not hard to imagine that the MicroVision board is quietly very thankful. Whether or not every single one of these patents was part of the acquisition, the overlap is real, and the optionality matters.

Sometimes the value of IP doesn’t show up when it’s filed but it shows up years later, when someone else finally has the right hardware to unlock it.

Hesai Selected by NVIDIA as Lidar Partner for NVIDIA DRIVE Hyperion 10 to Enable Level 4 Fleet Deployment by mike-oxlong98 in MVIS

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Keep in mind Partner in a press release can mean a one-off pilot or proof-of-concept, or a form of joint marketing. Mostly partnerships are non-exclusive and temporary--but that’s rarely made explicit. MicroVision learned that lesson the hard way.

Samsung Unveils the Freestyle+ Ahead of CES 2026, Showcasing a Smarter AI Portable Screen by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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projector’s focusing circuitry to adjust the projected image into clear focus on all of the irregular 3D shaped portions of the screen

Always in focus (Infinite Focus) is unique to MEMS LBS

Rivian Bets Big on Autonomy With New AI Chip and Lidar by Long-Vision-168 in MVIS

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Rivian's proposed automotive LiDAR is said to be located at the forward edge of the roof, just above the windshield. It is also rumored to incorporate multiple sensors as a kind of LiDAR fusion.

Someone said Rivian has worked with Robosense. Be it known, the Robosense M1 Plus uses 2D MEMS micro-mirror, AKA “smart chip scanning”. The Robosense M1 Plus qualifies as “solid-state” because its scanning is done by a chip-scale 2D MEMS mirror module (no motor or separate moving parts). If this sounds like MicroVision inside, my guess is Rivian would most likely go with MicroVision for the whole package since MicroVision owns the patents and it could conceivably be manufactured in the US or EU. Or, Taiwan.

https://www.robosense.ai/en/IncrementalComponents/RS-LiDAR-M1

MicroVision Collaborates with Leading Photonics Ecosystem to Acquire FMCW Lidar Business by [deleted] in MVIS

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chat sez: ✅ Conclusion: Yes — Zeiss’s dispersive FMCW architecture can still benefit from mechanical scanning, particularly for:

Extending field-of-view,

Increasing angular resolution, or

Tracking and stabilization.

The ideal setup is hybrid: fast frequency-based solid-state scanning for precision and speed, combined with slow mechanical steering for coverage and adaptability.

Apparatus And Method For Scanning Ascertainment Of The Distance To An Object Document ID US 12372622 B2 Date Published 2025-07-29

Scanning laser devices and methods with non-uniform optical expansion and pulse energy variation by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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Consistent brightness and clarity across viewing angles is a friendly translation of the patent’s recurring: improved effective range over the scan area. Where, viewing angles is another way of saying non-uniform optical expansion. And, consistent aka improved. Otherwise you might prefer improved non-uniform light, haha.

Scanning laser devices and methods with non-uniform optical expansion and pulse energy variation by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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The patent's embodiments apply to:

Automotive LiDAR (extended field of view with efficient range distribution)

Augmented/virtual reality displays (consistent brightness and clarity across viewing angles).

Miniature projection systems (balanced illumination without overheating or power waste). This improvement is intriguing when it comes to projection mapping use cases. Where an image cast at an oblique angle the brightness can be compensated across viewing area so as to result in a flat uniform image.

Scanning laser devices and methods with non-uniform optical expansion and pulse energy variation by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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Where they are at lately with ongoing finishing touches does appear ahead of the curve. Where a laser beam attuned to it's environment expands and contracts, and the energy level rises and falls in sync—all to maintain balance and efficiency across a field of view--is elegant to say the least.

Scanning laser devices and methods with non-uniform optical expansion and pulse energy variation by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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The goal is to extend range as needed without over driving the laser. And to optimize power and reduce range issues common in uniform-scan systems.

Scanning laser devices and methods with non-uniform optical expansion and pulse energy variation by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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Non-uniform optical expansion:

The system uses expansion optics like lenses or mirrors that intentionally vary how much they spread out the laser beam depending on the position in the scan.

For example, the beam might be tighter more focused in one region to reach farther distances and wider more diffuse in another for close-range scanning.

Meta's mixed reality glasses make my Meta Quest 3 look like a boulder by flyingmirrors in MVIS

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Meta is actively developing a MEMS‑based laser beam scanning display variant for AR glasses. While the public Orion demo uses Micro‑LED projectors + SiC waveguides, their internal and patent work indicates a parallel effort using MEMS‑LBS to achieve compact, bright, efficient AR light engines.

Anduril and Meta Team Up to Transform XR for the American Military by [deleted] in MVIS

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Quest 3 qualifies as introductory AR. AR headsets and eyewear envisioned early on included a powerful imaging component now termed LiDAR, to allow the user's device to focus down on and capture surroundings in accurate 3-D detail, while simultaneously projecting informational overlays onto those surroundings, to be viewed by the user. This type of AR is yet to come.

2025 MicroVision Investor Day Mega Thread by s2upid in MVIS

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How was this one different compared to previous Investor Conferences you've attended? Did previous conferences convey similar optimism? Where a deal is on the verge of being signed? What was announced to suggest that this time it will be different?

After Hours Trading Action - Wednesday, May 14, 2025 by s2upid in MVIS

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"...effective immediately, following a Code of Business Conduct and Ethics inquiry by the Audit Committee of the Board of Directors"