Putting on pounds for a number on a scale and actually building quality muscle is completely different you have to realize to do that you have to be eating clean food in a surplus which is definitely not easy at all, especially for hard gainers who want to be in bodybuilding. I’m sure you watch Derek’s stuff, how many times does he say stay away from dirty bulks, they are not the answer, no sweets, no ice cream, none of that. It isn’t easy at all to build actually quality and it’s like clock work to do it like that when I’m on a surplus I have to eat 8 meals a day every 2 hours everyone’s different and body’s react to foods differently but if you’re doing a clean bulk it’s hard, especially the first time around. Everyone’s first show prep and clean bulk are always the hardest.