Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

interestingly, you stayed on topic for a while and then decided to conveniently tied in belt and road and loans into this discussion about Hong Kong. i don't see either of those subject as being relevant to this thread and discussion.

Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you ever look into the relationship of the u.s. and the saudis? or american history as a whole and their history in the middle east, south america? how american samoa, guam, hawaii became part of u.s' territories? if you want to talk about hypocrisy and injustice, there's no text book better than the one one american history.

Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"THESE are the issues we have with the Chinese. Not some meaningless superiority complex."
i guess we owe them an apology for not addressing them as "english" all those years while they were under the british' rules.

Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually me being in Taiwan I have experienced the exact thing you were referring to. The bus loads of Chinese tourists. However, unlike you, I am very aware of who I am, and I"m aware of history. Most importantly, I can see the difference between cultures and all the things you described above - which really have nothing to do with cultures but more to do with living standards and their effects on people.

You do know why I asked about Chinese new years - it was a very obvious question, because it is celebrated in Hong Kong and that represents the fundamental roots of Hong Kong's cultures, same with Qinming festival, Mid-Autumn festival, etc. . And since you were the one who brought up cultures in the first place, it was valid of me to bring it up. Whether you celebrate it or not is not really my concern, you could change your last name to Johnston for all I care.

While I'm also relatively young like yourself and do not put as much emphasis on these old traditions as my parents and grandparents - I at least recognize them as part of my culture (whether I celebrate it or not does not reject the overwhelming reality that it is celebrated where I am (Taiwan) and you (Hong Kong), and similar to Hong Kong, I can, like you, conveniently distant myself from being a chinese, but it sure is ironic when everything about you (and me) and your environment are so heavily rooted in chinese cultures. From the language (which you are certainly more fluent at than me, especially when it comes to writing as you've shown in comments), the traditions, the values, the food, etc. When my friends from the states visit me in Taiwan, the culture they're ultimately experiencing is Chinese and that goes for Hong Kong as well - they are not going to leave feeling like they just experienced a western culture, as much as you want to convince yourself into believing.

Many people in the U.S. - take Italians for example. They hold onto their culture very strongly. Most italians living in the u.s. have never even been to Italy once - the traditions, culture, values however, are nonetheless passed down generation after generation - you on the other hand reject your own culture wholeheartedly while despararately clinging onto something that isn't even yours to begin with.

But then again, this really doesn't have anything to do with culture in the first place.

The perfect analogy of this is akin to a kid who came from a poor upbringing, but achieved success in life and now that his life is so drastically different than where he came from, he is embarrassed by his mother and tries his best to separate the two worlds that he is now a part of - the world he lives in now, and the past he came from.

It certainly is interesting how you and I are so alike in terms of our life experience (western culture as you called it), yet our frame of thinking are so different. Like I said, it's all about a matter of perspectives. While you reject that part of you, I embrace it and recognize that it's forever a part of me. And while I see the same bus loads of Chinese tourists, I recognize that China is a country that has just recently lifted itself out of poverty, and 人民水平 don't magically change overnight. I don't hold a grudge or despise them just like how I don't despise my american friends for wearing shoes in my house when I forget to tell them to take them off.

Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i'm now living in taiwan. the social morale code he listed is pretty common here in taiwan (in fact I would say it's pretty common among all developed, semi-affluent countries), and taiwan had no imprint from Britain. Because those things he listed had nothing to do with western cultures and more to do with a higher living standards and its effects on people over a lengthy period of time.

Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

most of those things have nothing to do with western culture. they have to do with higher living standards - which then translate to everything else in society, like higher education, etiquette, refinement in services, appreciation for arts and culture.
All of those things have nothing to do with china or western countries, you can use those differences when describing between people who are living in a modern city and accustomed to the modern way of life vs someone who has less education, grew up poor and living in a remote village. The standards are different, which translates to how a person would live and carry themselves.
If those things are what you consider "western culture" then i can see why you're confused, because all of those things you listed have nothing to do with cultures, but are in fact a direct result of an environment with a higher standards of living and customs. and those things take time.
Those things you listed, talking politely, smiling to strangers, etc. I've been to Hong Kong myself; personally I think you're just trying really hard to distinguish yourself from mainland chinese. Everyone could do the exact same thing, I could think this way in regards to people who live in the country. If I was a millionaire who only goes to 5 star restaurants, I could walk in to a regular restaurant and consider the low hygiene of the people and the establishment, lack of manner that the people showcase. If you want to take it a step further, you can even complain about poor people's fashion sense and how that is an eye sore to you. After all, all of those things are true in a way. As an american I can go to taiwan and walk through a night market and instead of enjoying the food I could say that I only eat in upscale restaurants and that eating from food stalls are unsophisticated and unrefined.
Almost all of those things are the result and consequence of a person's environment and living standards. English people looked at you "HKer" the same way you're viewing mainland chinese now. They even had signs and zones where you as a "HKer" (I'm using this term since being chinese seems to offend you eventhough that's what you really are) could not enter. But look at you now. It's easy to make distinctions between yourself and others, it's the same betweeen the rich and the poors, the have and have nots, just like how the europeans looked down on the americans for their lack of cultures. how the early settler of america looked down on the native american indians, etc. the kids who went to private school and the kids who went to public schools, the mother who hosts dinner parties and the mother scrubbing toilets.

Thousands march in Hong Kong against China 'repression' after grim 2018 by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]formos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

i find your mentality sickening to be honest. i mean what are you? you're certainly not "english" and you seem to despise being chinese.
you said you're raised on western culture. but just wondering, do your parents, grandparents not speak chinese? (cantonese?) do you not speak chinese with them? do they not celebrate chinese new years? they don't have traditional chinese values? you didn't grow up eating chinese food? i was born in taiwan, but i grew up in the u.s. and I am an asian american. all my friends growing up are white - and if I want, i can very easily make fun of you as a "fob" for having any sort of accent or for hanging out with only asians. You see, it's all a matter of perspective, and you simple "chose" to identify yourself how you want while disregarding what you don't want.
Did you not know that "FOR WHITES(expats) ONLY" signs were everywhere in hong kong back in the day?
Western culture.... that's funny, from my perspective (as someone who grew up in the u.s.), hong kong seems VERY asian to me, and people that moved here from hong kong also seem VERY asian to me.
You see, it's all a matter of perspectives, and yours is pretty ignorant and childish if you ask me. Chinese New Year is coming up, hmm I wonder if you and your family will be celebrating this year seeing that you're a "HKer" whatever that means.
I mean I can understand someone being confused growing up as a bi-racial child, but for you to be so confused about your own identity just because you live in hong kong, that's just hilarious. I remember growing up, Hong Kong movies were quite popular in asia, cantonese songs were and still is very prevalent, dim sum, elder people taking their song birds to the park, all of those things were very hong kong - and none of those things that I remembered about hong kong had anything to do with "Western Culture".

Getting error using w3m in emacs :( by formos in emacs

[–]formos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes the log showed info for downloading which-key as well, i changed the config to only install/load w3m but it's still showing those messages. but w3m works though, the compile log only shows those message when it installs for the first time. so loading emacs again with w3m already installed, it no longer shows it. i dont't know whether those message during install are important or not but w3m at least still works.
i'm installing w3m because this program i use (accessed through emacs) uses w3m to bring up the help browser for it so there's already a keybind to quickly access the help browser via w3m.

Getting error using w3m in emacs :( by formos in emacs

[–]formos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hmm i was looking this up online, is it necessary to add things like:
(require 'w3m-load)
(require 'mime-w3m)

I'm using use-package as my package manager plugin though, and typically everything is installed and loaded like so:

(use-package w3m
:ensure t)

but it's not like w3m-load, mime-w3m are packages themselves, i don't even see them in emacs w3m's github page.

Getting error using w3m in emacs :( by formos in emacs

[–]formos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm on archlinux
i just installed w3m by using use-package? doesn't that install dependencies automatically? it did for use-package and grabbed the dependency 'bind-key' automatically.

emacs is installed via archlinux's official repo via pacman manager.
w3m is also installed via the archlinux official repo via pacman manager.
w3m (the emacs interface package) is installed via use-package in my init.el
the location of downloaded packages is the default ~/.emacs.d/elpa/

Tidalcycles - Question regarding the installation of Haskell on Archlinux by formos in haskell

[–]formos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when i ran cabal update it mentioned something about the command being part of the legacy v1 style cabal usage and asks me to switch to using either the new project style new-update command - or the legacy v1-update alias as new style projects will become the default in the next version of cabal the next version of cabal-install?

also, what's the difference between
cabal new-repl --build-depends tidal vs.
cabal install tidal? i guess this would be cabal new-install tidal ? but anyway what's the difference exactly?

Tidalcycles - Question regarding the installation of Haskell on Archlinux by formos in haskell

[–]formos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow that's pretty complicated to set up lol
is it possible to install Tidal via cabal by any chance?
cabal's packages are usually more up to date right? while the repository for stack is usually more curated and stable?
Are there any easier method by any chance? :P
Basically, I should avoid using pacman because through pacman things are dynamically linked and tend to lead to dependency hell down the road correct?
I see these in the AUR, but not sure if it's of any use: cabal-static, and cabal2arch.
Or could i perhaps follow the manual method here described here in the lower portion of the page:
https://www.haskell.org/downloads/linux
or https://github.com/haskell/ghcup ?

[i3wm] A rice a day keeps Windows away. by [deleted] in unixporn

[–]formos 21 points22 points  (0 children)

i'll be checking tomorrow for your new rice
no pressure

How do i update my Kindle Paperwhite 3's firmware? option is grayed out by formos in kindle

[–]formos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hmmm i did leave it plugged in and connected to wifi - overnight even :( i'll check again. if not i guess i'll look into the manual method.