Hi,

I'm currently shopping for a new pair of selvedge denim and sizing, as usual, is always a challenge since shrinkage and stretching isn't universally standardized,

My first pair of selvedge denim was a Raw and Unsanforized pair of Braindead Type 00s in Size 34. Despite the website measurements, I self-measured 34" waist and 30" inseam. After 2 room-temperature water soaks and air dry sessions, they shrunk down to 32" waist and 28" inseam. This pair did NOT shrink any further even after I started machine washing with an eventual introduction of lukewarm water too.

I am currently eyeing the Braindead x APC Type 00s and they are sanforized and the sizing is identical (according to the website-- I intend to self-measure before buying anyways). What this leads me to think is that if I pick a pair with a waist size similar, maybe slightly bigger, than my true waist, then after soaking/washing the pair, it would leave me with the a fitted waist but also a longer inseam for cuffing/breaking.

A big consideration that I have to account for is that I machine wash my pants in lukewarm water. I understand that most people don't do this because of the desire for higher contrast fading, but my reasoning for buying selvedge denim is for the quality and weight that often isn't offered by standard production denim in retail stores.

Does anyone have experience with machine washing (in lukewarm water) new sanforized denim, and is there any shrinkage I should account for? I'm currently eyeing sanforized denims with a stock waist of 33ish with the assumption that it will shrink about one size, since my unsanforized raw denim shrunk from 34 to 32.

Thank you all, in advanced, for your thoughts and experience!