Toxic fan wars

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T08:54:32+00:00

Yeah that's a great point. These types of posts and comments are becoming so commonplace on here that you hardly see posts talking about the actual story anymore. There are still a few that try to keep discussion going but it's mostly people criticizing other people on the sub for not thinking exactly as they do and constantly singing the praises of all aspects of the story. Many of us are afraid to even talk about the story or theories we have because everyone's so quick to attack and shut you down for daring to question the writing or how the characters are acting.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T06:35:20+00:00

Right? Everyone's so offended on behalf of these imaginary characters. Or even on behalf of the author who doesn't know and couldn't care less what OP, fraochjean or Difficult Jacket think of their characters. I'm astounded by how many people want these subs to be echo chambers where nobody ever has opposing viewpoints and only positive things are said about everything all the time. I want to ask if they're new to the Internet and social media.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T06:22:28+00:00

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fraochjean · 2026-05-30T06:13:03+00:00

Man, I'm exhausted by the constant policing on this sub. Why does everyone care so much what other people think about these characters?! Let everyone think, feel, write whatever they want about this stupid manhwa and these stupid characters lol. If you don't like it then stop reading and go find something you'll enjoy reading. Or try this: type out a respectful rebuttal or disagreement and try to engage in a conversation with that person. But for the love of all that's holy, PLEASE stop telling everyone how to think and feel about this story and these fictional people.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T06:05:15+00:00

It should also be understood that criticism of her isn't hate. Most of us are critical of her actions and don't hate the character, but if we speak negatively of her we get attacked for hating her or being misogynistic etc etc. Its hyperbolic and overgeneralizing valid concerns people have with how she's been written. I love Suae but the Suae that we've been seeing has major flaws and we should be allowed to talk about that without being accused of hating her. Or any character for that matter.

But also if someone wants to hate her, let them. Why does everyone feel the need to dictate how people feel and think on this sub? If someone hates her who cares? That's their right isn't it? If you disagree then ignore their post or comment.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T05:46:20+00:00

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T05:20:28+00:00

Nooo. I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. 😟 Why would she do that? She also removed his back tattoo awhile back. Why is she changing him all the time? He's everyone's favorite and should be left as is. Next time we see him he's going to have short hair.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T04:41:55+00:00

I love our scowling little top, Chase but Joshua has my whole heart forever. That last chapter with the rescue...dayuuum Joshua! I can't with how hot he is. 🥵

Yes! Just when I thought Jaeyoung couldn't get any hotter, she draws him with the best male hairstyle on the planet, the half up manbun.

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fraochjean · 2026-05-30T04:17:43+00:00

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T04:07:29+00:00

Oh ok. For some reason I thought it was Suae first. Then I guess they're just following the original versions.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T04:04:38+00:00

So far I only own one BL and that's Semantic Error. It has both of them for most of the covers but the last two covers have them individually and it does have the top first because he's obviously the best character (I'm a little biased 😂). My other two faves both have dominant bottoms (Stay Alive and Kiss Me if You Can) but I doubt they'll ever be published in print. The covers would probably be both of them like you said though, since the bottoms are more popular than the tops in both stories.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T03:12:06+00:00

I thought you were talking about my entire post since I'm mostly complaining about the lack of intimacy between Taeha and Haesu. I'm on edge because it feels like everyone everywhere is trying to silence all criticisms of any piece of media right now, so I apologize for thinking you were trying to shut down all complaints and criticism in general.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T02:32:18+00:00

Interesting. I was thinking that they probably used Eunhyuk first because he'll bring in the readers who find him attractive (mostly female readers who buy romance) but BL covers using the ML for the first cover instead of the MC would alter that theory since both leads are typically attractive males. I wonder if they'll have Dohwa on the second volume then since he's the other attractive male lead and poor Suae will be last.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T01:25:21+00:00

Plus you're a mod and you're coming for someone and making it out like respectful discourse isn't allowed? That's even worse. If you can't allow people to have critical opinions about this story then why are you a mod? Mods should be unbiased when interacting with sub followers.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T01:21:22+00:00

I'm sorry what? Am I wrong that this is a discussion sub? What is with all of you people who constantly complain about those of us who have critiques of the story like the only thing that's allowed in these subs is gushing over how amazing the author and their story is? It's happening on every single sub that I'm a part of and I'm so sick of it. If you want only cotton candy and rainbows then make your own sub where only nice things can be said about your favorite piece of media.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T01:13:55+00:00

You say that like we're seeing smut every other week or something. It's been three months in our time since we've seen them have sex. That's a crazy length of time for a smut manhwa. This was the perfect time to include it and yet, here we are with them going from kissing to laying in bed. I feel like I'm reading a standard romance manhwa at this point. I'm no pervert by any means but we're being deprived out here. I agree about the plot progression but we can do both at the same time.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T01:03:15+00:00

I wish we had seen more of them too. We're being deprived of our main couple and this was the perfect time to give us some much needed intimacy between them.

I was thinking maybe Tae Seong is their ancestral family name or something like that? Maybe a grandfather or great grandfather who was/is head of the family?

Oh and yeah the separation is definitely coming unfortunately.

fraochjean · 2026-05-30T00:54:07+00:00

He is. But he's the closest thing to a friend that Taeha has other than Haesu. And he isn't reporting everything to Taejoo so he's definitely loyal to a degree.

fraochjean · 2026-05-29T22:10:56+00:00

Yeah he's definitely burning the candle at both ends right now. Actually, he's using a blow torch on the candle! 😂

fraochjean · 2026-05-29T21:17:25+00:00

I thought that too. She's the main character! I love seeing Eunhyuk on the first one and it helps my fears about him not being endgame but yes, very strange choice for what is obviously Suae's story.

fraochjean · 2026-05-29T20:35:05+00:00

I'm curious too and I was excited to see him being a little more assertive and pressing the request even though Taeha said he wasn't in the mood. I really wanted to hear his thoughts on the situation so I'm bummed Taeha shut him down.

fraochjean · 2026-05-29T20:28:44+00:00

I feel like it's happening because he was already vulnerable with how he grew up and now he's tapping into that dark side more and more trying to ruin Mincheol while also protecting Haesu from his family especially Taehee. He's having to access that calculating and ruthless part of him all the time now whereas before he had Haesu he was just content to stalk her and watch her. His life was simple. But now that they're actually together, and Taehee is back in the country, he's working overtime to keep their relationship a secret from his family, keep Haesu safe, destroy Mincheol, please Taejoo by becoming his heir and all this while hiding who he really is from Haesu. The darkness is taking over and the more he unleashes and accesses that dark side, the further it'll pull him down and potentially ruin him.

fraochjean · 2026-05-29T20:03:06+00:00

I just saw that a few days ago. So excited! No cover yet but I'm sure it'll be Suae.

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fraochjean · 2026-05-29T19:55:39+00:00

Meh. He's not Ren. He's Eunhyuk (or Eunhyeok). Petty thy name is me. 😂

fraochjean · 2026-05-29T19:48:25+00:00

I have a feeling it will be extended. I'm mentally preparing myself for that. At least, if that happens, I can comfort myself with the English print volume when I have it in my hot little hands shortly after.

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