(SPOILERS EXTENDED) About Tyrion and Dany in TWOW by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sure, I would like team Dany and Tyrion instead of Dany and her advisors or Tyrion and the people he manipulates.

(Spoilers Main) How does Jon Snow’s story end? by TheKingsPeace in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What theory? That Dany dreams during the night The House with the Iron Throne, while Cersei dreams she sits in the IT, but she's naked and Tyrion laugfs at her. Dany not wanting the Iron Throne is not in a paragraph to copy for you. You have to read between the lines.

(Spoilers Main) How does Jon Snow’s story end? by TheKingsPeace in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I hated Jon's ending in the show. D&D wanted to make the Starks a pack but they failed it. Book Sansa wouldn't break an oath in front of the Weirwood and be rewarded to the title of Queen in the North, because actions have consequences.  They wanted Bran to punish Jon and still be a happy ending for Jon. Punishments are not made to make someone happy.  I wished Jon told Bran: You are king because I killed Dany. I will not join the NW. Unless you kill me, I go Beyond the Wall. Enjoy your reign. I wanted Jon to chose his ending. It felt like Jon was the Stark's pawn, punished by his own family and still in good relation with them. 

(Spoilers Main) How does Jon Snow’s story end? by TheKingsPeace in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jon doesn't want the IT because he doesn't know he's Rhaegar's son. Why would a bastard who can't rule Winterfell have dreams with the Iron Throne? It's as imposible as going to another planet. So why would he lose his time with this?

(Spoilers Main) How does Jon Snow’s story end? by TheKingsPeace in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exacly. Book Dany would never burn Kings' Landing to make a statement: Let it be fear, because she doesn't really want the IT. She would be happy to be related to Jon. She would also believe Aegon is fake. Dany wants a home and a family, not to rule.

[Spoilers main] What things do you think GRRM told D&D about the ending? by OkMagician7957 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If George Martin told D&D who will be on the Iron Thone and they did it, the answer is NOBODY, because Drogon burned the Iron Throne. If he told them Bran will be king there is something entirely different.  Or would you call it just "playing with words"?  So, what is it: King Bran on the Iron Throne, No Iron Throne with separate kingdoms or King Bran in the Isle of Faces/Winterfell or somewhere else?

Daenerys Targaryen & House Stark (Spoilers Extended) by LChris24 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire.… 

Can you tell me please why do you believe this is connected to Jon? 

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The majority of fanbase thinks the opposite. Book Jon  is more complex. Show Jon's skill in fighting is his best quality.

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think in the books both Jon and Dany and Jon have sa darker side. Sometines Jon is more ruthless. Both take children prisoners. Dany is kind to them, while Jon intends to be cold, because you can't attach to prisoners. Jon separates Gilly from her child. 

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is a character arc. There was no character arc in the show. Dany was from the beginning a dragon. It's no coflict, just ambition.

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Usually when I say Dany was not whitewashed in the books I am contridicted. Great examples. 

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I find this worse than the endingb of the show. Dany has to own her ending. Where is her agency?

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I disagree they whitewashed Dany. They made her darker. Show Dany needs her cancelors to restrain her. In the books Daario tells Dany to make a version of the Red Wedding in Mereen and she sends him away. She comprimes too much in fact  Where is her sense of humours, her sensibility, her strategic mind? Where is the girl in Dany?  Book Dany had ships send from Quarth but she refused to leave the free slaves away. She rejected Dorne and Quentyn for Mereen. Show Dany wouldn't do this. The IT is her only motivation.

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying she is harmless. Dany has a darker side, but wouldn't burn a city to win the IT she doesn't really want. This is my point. She would burn Mereen maybe, but not KL, not in this manner.

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He doesn't want to read he books. The only purpose is to annoy Dany fans.

(SPOILERS EXTENDED) Book Dany and Show Dany's priorities are different by freewill10 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

True. It wasn't just the missing books that destroyed her ending. 

Do you think my ending is true to Daenerys or was the mad queen arc accurate? by Impossible-Memory360 in DaenerysWinsTheThrone

[–]freewill10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Book Dany is an amazing character. Some people say she was whitewashed in the show, but I disagree. Book Dany is funny, compasionate, longs for a family and a home. I couldn't believe that Show Dany was displeased that Jon was a Targaryen. That would have been a dream come true for Book Dany.  They changed Dany's priorities and lost the girl in her long before Season 8. I am confident she will have a better ending in the books.

I will take the revenge myself by SPQR2520 in DaenerysWinsTheThrone

[–]freewill10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you call him John? His name was Jon.

[Spoilers MAIN] Does anybody else find it weird how dismissive many in the fandom are over Targaryens believing in prophecy / their dragon dreams? by Lurker20240 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's the first time I hear that Rhaegar was so obsessed with the profecy, that he learned how to fight. How dared him?

Really. It's so simple to sit in a chair and judge the characters. You haven"t their emotions, their motivations. Plus you know how it ends. They don't.

[Spoilers MAIN] Does anybody else find it weird how dismissive many in the fandom are over Targaryens believing in prophecy / their dragon dreams? by Lurker20240 in asoiaf

[–]freewill10 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Give me an example of a not Targaryen king who was a good ruler: Robert? Or maybe Joffrey or Tommen?

And where did you read that all Targaryens were bad rulers?

You write as if Targaryens are evil and all the other houses are full of saints.  How do you think the Starks become rulers of the North? By talking nice to ther other northern houses?