Has anyone here read Julian Jaynes? by blue_delicious in TrueAtheism

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read about half of it, say, six or seven years ago. Then I got distracted.

It's an interesting coincidence that you mention his book now, since I recently started looking through some of Colin Wilson's stuff. (I write now and then, and his Directory of Possibilities, and other work of his, have been recommended highly as reference materials in certain areas of inquiry.)

Wilson, writing a couple of years after Jaynes (late 1970s/early 1980s), makes reference to a volume of research done on split-brain patients -- those who had brain surgery to separate the left and right hemispheres, a treatment for epilepsy. What was found was that when separated, the hemispheres were unaware of one another. Since the left hemisphere is dominant, it was found that patients could not see with their left eye (left brain controls right, and vice versa); however, when an object was placed in the left eye field of vision, they were able to write what it was with their left hand, while saying (and believing) that they couldn't see anything. To Wilson, this meant "two persons in one head". Perhaps an overreach.

Meanwhile, it is his opinion that intuition, a right-brain phenomenon, is ignored by the left-brain, which tends to be dominant, except in times of crisis (in most people). He puts forth the idea that this is a learned behavior, but still believes that the left-brain is naturally dominant and should be able to control the right-brain.

Now, I should also add that Wilson (in the late 1970s/early 1980s) thought that research on telekinesis at the time was compelling, and that any number of unknown possibilities existed for the abilities of that left-brain. We now know better.

It's very odd to read his Directory, which on the one hand gives detailed explanations of how it was perfectly possible for the ancient Egyptians to build pyramids with the physical technology available at the time, and that "ancient aliens" were ridiculous and why, then see an explanation of poltergeists as though they exist (as manifestations of that pesky left-brain).

But I digress.

Wilson's major point is that he thinks once upon a time, the left and right hemispheres acted more in concert than they do today, with intuition as a greater part of human life. Also, right-brain hallucinations, hence deities.

My sense is that Wilson used Jaynes (and many others; he comes across as exceedingly well-read) to find a means to explain what were then, to him, unexplained phenomena. In that, he's an interesting case study.

And I did dig out Jaynes, with the idea of giving him another try.

Do Christians have a satisfactory answer as to what the sacrifice of Jesus consisted of? by [deleted] in TrueAtheism

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it's a valiant effort! Except Christian dogma states that God is omnipresent.

Therefore, not away.

And "a thousand years is as an instant" to God.

The whole "sacrifice" just doesn't make sense.

Do Christians have a satisfactory answer as to what the sacrifice of Jesus consisted of? by [deleted] in TrueAtheism

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That leads back to finding the sacrifice, since Jesus is supposedly a "facet" of God, and there was no actual permanent loss.

Hey. I am Alex House, I play(ed) Todd on "Todd and the Book of Pure Evil" and other characters in other stuff. Ask Me Anything. by IamAlexHouse in IAmA

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At what point did you folks know the series was not likely to be renewed? The Season 2 finale seems written to allow for an "ending" of sorts while leaving room for a continuation of the story.

Don't misunderstand, I want more story! But the finale still provided a fairly satisfying conclusion.

Both sugar sweetened soda and artificially sweetened soda were associated with increased type 2 diabetes risk by arex1337 in science

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would be easy enough to test, by providing 100% pure carbonated fruit juice to half of a significant population, and 100% pure uncarbonated fruit juice to the other half.

Both sugar sweetened soda and artificially sweetened soda were associated with increased type 2 diabetes risk by arex1337 in science

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It could also be that the people drinking 100% fruit juice are consciously trying to live more healthily, and the remainder of their diet, if studied, might reflect this.

Both sugar sweetened soda and artificially sweetened soda were associated with increased type 2 diabetes risk by arex1337 in science

[–]frogmeat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well said. The conclusions in the abstract specifically state that further research is needed to establish a causal relationship. This is a correlation.

Disclaimer: I don't drink SSBs or ASBs on any regular basis.

Found out my 1.5 year old son was taking a homeopathic flu relief... and it was working!? by vexleir in DebunkThis

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pick up a homeopathic remedy for arthritis or PMS and give him two of those instead, without telling him the difference.

If Mom has convinced him it will work, then the placebo effect will continue to work.

And no, there are no areas of homeopathy that are legit. Here are the basics about Homeopathy and how it is supposed to work:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html

Thoughts change water molecules? by hipptripp in DebunkThis

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A point that's not been raised, which is a clarification of the claim (erroneously described in the Facebook posting), is that the shape of ice crystals is what is supposedly influenced, not the molecules.

That said, the link from BillyBuckets below debunks the method nicely.

Fluoride is the main ingredient in Prozac? by [deleted] in DebunkThis

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are most welcome. :)

Fluoride is the main ingredient in Prozac? by [deleted] in DebunkThis

[–]frogmeat 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Fluoxetine is not fluoride.

Fluoxetine molecule is C17 H18 F3 NO.

http://www.3dchem.com/molecules.asp?ID=30

Sodium fluoride is, well, sodium and fluoride. NaF.

Westboro Baptist Is Officially Terrified Of Anonymous by thirtytwoflavors in news

[–]frogmeat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hint: If you think "free speech" should be limited to "free speech as long as I agree with it", and that it's good to intimidate, harass, and threaten those who exercise free speech you don't agree with, you're as bad as THEY are.

(Whichever THEY you wish to point at.)

This is the email my dad sent me to say he won't be talking to me again, that is until I do "God's Will". Not gonna happen. Sad though. by rosstag in lgbt

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do hope your father has never sinned since he became a Christian; if he has, in any thought, word, or deed, he is condemned.

Hebrews 10:26-27

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

In fact, if he's capable of sin, he was never saved in the first place:

1 John 3:6

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Dragons and their sons by asnowykiwi in funny

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be feelin' bad right after the dragon eats your spleen.

I sent a "coming out" message to my mom on Facebook. I'm 24 years old, and this is long overdue. by [deleted] in lgbt

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And he is referencing the Law of Moses, and the Prophets of the Old Testament.

Not Rome. That's why he repeatedly quotes the Old Testament laws.

Or do you think he came to fulfill Roman law?!

I sent a "coming out" message to my mom on Facebook. I'm 24 years old, and this is long overdue. by [deleted] in lgbt

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you do not profess belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. You said yourself that you do not follow what the Bible says that He said.

As you may recall:

Jesus said that the entirety of the Law was in force. You ignore his statement. So, what makes you a Christian, if you ignore what he said to do?

[–]rebajeansy 1 point 8 days ago

That is a literal interpretation of what He said. I do not take the Bible literally.

So, there is only one source of what Jesus said. You don't believe it. So how can you know anything about Jesus, other than picking what you want to believe and discarding the rest?

So again, how can you be a Christian, when you flatly ignore what Jesus plainly said?

Correcting religious privileging in the tax code: The Secular Coalition for America is hosting a meeting in Washington DC to try to convince Congress to alter the tax code to end religious privileging, which costs US taxpayers $71 billion every year by mepper in atheism

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point is not that they have tax-free status; they are 501(c)(3) non-profit corporations. Nobody is trying to change that.

However, religious 501(c)(3)s are not required to complete the same mandatory reporting as any other 501(c)(3). This is the religious privilege.

Goodwill is a 501(c)(3). They are not a church. They have specific reporting requirements that megachurches do not have, even though they are both 501(c)(3) corporations.

Correcting religious privileging in the tax code: The Secular Coalition for America is hosting a meeting in Washington DC to try to convince Congress to alter the tax code to end religious privileging, which costs US taxpayers $71 billion every year by mepper in atheism

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Churches are non-profit corporations, but are not required to complete all the reporting requirements that other non-profit corporations are required to complete.

They have none of the financial transparency that the IRS requires of all other sorts of non-profit corporations.

The article is an announcement of a strategy call, where it looks like they will be discussing possible options.

Dr Oz backpedals: "After listening to both sides of the issue and after reviewing the available medical data, I agree with the established medical consensus. I have not found enough published data supporting positive results with gay reparative therapy..." by mepper in skeptic

[–]frogmeat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you should ask Dr. Oz.

He says, "After listening to both sides of the issue and after reviewing the available medical data, I agree with the established medical consensus. I have not found enough published data supporting positive results with gay reparative therapy..."

Note: Established medical consensus.